Jesse Watters (of Fox News) own mama has decided not invite him for Thanksgiving. This will happen among tons of families. (1 Viewer)

[Peter]

Unhinged.

I'm glad you agree with me that Trump is indeed unhinged.

Acceptance is the key to seeing how Trump really is.

 

[Peter]

What sort of reaction were you expecting? Did you really think that Trump supporters would change their views because some angry, hate-filled leftists wont invite them to dinner?

When it's your own parents who won't invite you, maybe it's time to rethink your life choices.

 

[Slartibartfast]

For a mother to dis-invite her own son to a holiday event is a whole different kettle of beans. Watters' mom has always disagreed with her son's political views, no? But, this is the first time he wasn't invited to Thanksgiving. Smells like it's a bit more than this election triggering this moment.

You can't be friends with a rapist and say you're not cool with rape. And, if you are cool with rape, we can't be friends.

Given how Jesse behaves, I suspect there are some aspect of it that has to do with toxic personalities.

 

[dobieg]

We have family who are liberals and we've never had a problem attending family events with them after liberals won the presidency because we're not sniveling little shits who can't separate politics from our loved ones.

I can't imagine what small, little people some must be to get themselves so worked up over politicians thst they would cut off family. Absolutely worthless people in my opinion.

 

[Fletch]

I'm glad you agree with me that Trump is indeed unhinged.

Acceptance is the key to seeing how Trump really is.

I wasnt referring to Trump

 

[Fletch]

When it's your own parents who won't invite you, maybe it's time to rethink your life choices.

Or they theirs. But you go right ahead defending this sort of divisive, hateful behavior.

 

[Felis Leo]

Extended family is one thing, but this is his mother not inviting her son over an election. Not convinced he or she is serious, but if its true, shes an asshole.

Then by your reckoning, everyone is better off right, Fletch? Jesse Watters never has to see his asshole mother again, and his asshole mother does not have to spend time with her wonderful son who she hates.

 

[Felis Leo]

No, this thread is evidence that it is happening because of this election and nothing else.

I have been provided no evidence to make such a determination beyond a 19 second clip by a man who said he would divorce his wife if she voted for Kamala Harris. I am not given to trust his characterization of events.

 

[Fletch]

Given how Jesse behaves, I suspect there are some aspect of it that has to do with toxic personalities.

You would be wrong. If you were even slightly familiar with him of his shows, you would know that.

 

[Peter]

Or they theirs. But you go right ahead defending this sort of divisive, hateful behavior.

Watters is the guy with the TV show spouting continual hatefull bollocks.
His parents just don't want any part of that any more.
They can invite or not invite who they like and they don't want to invite that twat.

 

[Slartibartfast]

You would be wrong. If you were even slightly familiar with him of his shows, you would know that.

Of course you give this stuff a pass.

 

[Fletch]

Then by your reckoning, everyone is better off right, Fletch? Jesse Watters never has to see his asshole mother again, and his asshole mother does not have to spend time with her wonderful son who she hates.

If thats how things turn out, thats on the mother isnt it. He didnt cut her off, she cut him off and by extension, her grand children. Now you go ahead and explain to me how this was a mature and rational decision on the part of any mother. Ill wait...

 

[Fletch]

Watters is the guy with the TV show spouting continual hatefull bollocks.

He doesnt spount hate. Ehy do you have to lie like that?

His parents just don't want any part of that any more.
They can invite or not invite who they like and they don't want to invite that twat.

You dont know wtf you are talking about do you.

 

[Felis Leo]

If thats how things turn out, thats on the mother isnt it. He didnt cut her off, she cut him off and by extension, her grand children. Now you go ahead and explain to me how this was a mature and rational decision on the part of any mother. Ill wait...

I do not know enough about the Watters' extended family dynamic. Perhaps it was done in a fit of pique. Perhaps not. If Watters is an insufferable unfunny nasty jerk offstage as he is onstage, and is emotionally abusive to his mother, siblings, and in-laws, I can see why he would be disinvited. But if he keeps it to himself and leaves his politics at work, and is otherwise affable to be around but Mama cut him off from Thanksgiving because she or siblings/in-laws cannot stand the fact that he is a mendacious right-wing propagandist, then yeah, less justifiable. Maybe one of his brothers or sisters married a Haitian immigrant, or has a gay child and they do not want to be exposed to a paid blood libeler.

 

[Fletch]

I do not know enough about the Watters' extended family dynamic. Perhaps it was done in a fit of pique. Perhaps not. If Watters is an insufferable unfunny nasty jerk offstage as he is onstage, and is emotionally abusive to his mother, siblings, and in-laws, I can see why he would be disinvited. But if he keeps it to himself and leaves his politics at work, and is otherwise affable to be around but Mama cut him off from Thanksgiving because she or siblings/in-laws cannot stand the fact that he is a mendacious right-wing propagandist, then yeah, less justifiable. Maybe one of his brothers or sisters married a Haitian immigrant, or has a gay child and they do not want to be exposed to a paid blood libeler.

Youre just doing your best to rationalize bad behavior on the part of the mother. Not sure why its so hard for you libs to stand up and say 'that is going to far' but I suppose if you could do that, the election might have turned out differently.

 

[Felis Leo]

Youre just doing your best to rationalize bad behavior on the part of the mother.

I do not have enough information, because the information is being given to me by Jesse Watters, a man who I believe is a wicked and dishonest person on both a political and interpersonal level.

Not sure why its so hard for you libs to stand up and say 'that is going to far' but I suppose if you could do that, the election might have turned out differently.

Again, I do not have any information except from Mr. Watters and I know nothing about their family dynamic and how he behaves towards his mother and his family. But it needs to be noted that Watters said only two weeks ago on air that he would divorce his wife if he found out she voted for Harris. Perhaps the apple did not fall far from the tree and he got this attitude of politics-before-family from his mother.

 

[Peter]

He doesnt spount hate. Ehy do you have to lie like that?

You dont know wtf you are talking about do you.

I've watched his show and he's a smug twat who treats anyone he disagrees with with utter disdain and contempt.

It is possible to not like him.

 

[Felis Leo]

Youre just doing your best to rationalize bad behavior on the part of the mother. Not sure why its so hard for you libs to stand up and say 'that is going to far' but I suppose if you could do that, the election might have turned out differently.

Oh, and another thing, Fletch: I generally given to distrust famous people leveraging their fame and their access to media platforms to crap on their family members. I distrusted it when Meghan Markle did it to her dad. I distrust it with Jesse Watters doing it with his mom. There is something immensely seedy about it. Unless someone has engaged in criminal behavior against you, I see no reason to publicly air your fights with family for the world to see. So even if Watters was totally innocent and sweet to his mother and his extended family and they cut him off solely because of politics and nothing else, I think the way he is going about it is tawdry.

 

[watsup]

Donald Trump:
34 “Do not suppose that I have come to bring peace to the earth. I did not come to bring peace, but a sword. For I have come to turn a man against his father,
a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against her mother-in-law—a man’s enemies will be the members of his own household.’

Anyone who loves their father or mother more than me is not worthy of me; anyone who loves their son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me. Whoever finds their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life for my sake will find it.

(actually Jesus in Matthew 10:34-39)

Wrong forum.

 

[Fletch]

I do not have enough information, because the information is being given to me by Jesse Watters, a man who I believe is a wicked and dishonest person on both a political and interpersonal level.

The man is not wicked. Just stop it.

Again, I do not have any information except from Mr. Watters and I know nothing about their family dynamic and how he behaves towards his mother and his family. But it needs to be noted that Watters said only two weeks ago on air that he would divorce his wife if he found out she voted for Harris. Perhaps the apple did not fall far from the tree and he got this attitude of politics-before-family from his mother.

Much of what Watters says, particularly on The Five, is sarcastic or meant to be funny.

 

[EnchantedMuggle]

No, it’s about politics, nothing more. Trying to pretend it’s about morals is silly.

And how do we know Mom Watters' reason is political and not, you know, her crazy son who deflated his intended's tires so she couldn't run away and would have to go on a date with him?

This pillar of morality and levelheadedness couldn't possibly be the problem, right?

The dude's a nutcase and it's far more likely that he disrupts every family gathering with his lunacy than it it is that Mom Watters just randomly hates his politics all of a sudden and won't let him sit at the Thanksgiving table. Maybe with this 2024 win he went really over the top (even more so than usual...I mean...have you ever watched this guy? Listened to him?) and Mom Watters decided she is just too damned old for this shit any more and wants a peaceful holiday.

Ever considered that possibility?

 

[Kelby]

One of my friends is a lesbian, and married to a woman. After the election, her father and sister both called her, celebrating Trump's victory, bragging that he was going to repeal gay marriage. So she cut them off. You can find despicable shits on all sides.

That's messed up. One of my best friends is a Republican, but not necessarily a Maga one, who's daughter is married to another woman. They have two kids, now. He struggles with that relationship, but not the family he has.

 

[Fletch]

Oh, and another thing, Fletch: I generally given to distrust famous people leveraging their fame and their access to media platforms to crap on their family members. I distrusted it when Meghan Markle did it to her dad. I distrust it with Jesse Watters doing it with his mom. There is something immensely seedy about it. Unless someone has engaged in criminal behavior against you, I see no reason to publicly air your fights with family for the world to see. So even if Watters was totally innocent and sweet to his mother and his extended family and they cut him off solely because of politics and nothing else, I think the way he is going about it is tawdry.

He talks about his mom on his shows regularly and their political disagreements are very well known. She often texts him while he is on air to voice her disapproval of something he has said and he reads them. Who he supports for president was never a secret. If this is true about his mom not inviting him, and im not convinced it is, then it is her reacting poorly to the outcome of the election. But this thread is also about the idea that disinviting Trump supporters is a proper response to the election. That is insane and it is OK to say so.

 

[Kelby]

I suspect that if someone has chosen to cut off family members and friends…the choice to vote for Trump is likely just the straw that broke the proverbial camel’s back.

I thank God every day my immediate family are aligned with regards to Trump, there was no friction around our discussion this most recent political season.

One of my Sister-in-laws is similarly aligned, can't stand the man, but has a son who is a true Trumper. He explained his support for Trump based on his job in supplying electrical parts for mining and fossil energy industries, claiming his six figure income would be threated by a Democrat taking over. There may be some truth to that, but fortunately they've reached a detente on the results of the election. This is good, because we'll be spending Thanksgiving there with many other politically mixed we've learned to navigate these waters peacefully.

 

[Cardinal]

At this point it's not about politics. It's about morals.

The way I've come to see this trend is that the family has turned into the last bastion for enforcing consequences.

For the last eight years, conservatives have moved to a platform of behavior that is free from consequence. Free from the consequence of racism. Free from the consequence of perpetually lying. Free from the consequence of gas lighting. Free from the consequence of putting kids in cages and deporting the parents. Free from the consequence of shattering the nation in response to Covid. Free from the consequence of supporting a vile and depraved man who is himself the poster child for being free from consequences. The 2024 election was in many ways a validation of their philosophy (insofar as it can be considered a "philosophy.)" And the millions of people who've suffered from the total abandonment of morality have used their only card to impose consequences: they've cut out their trump supporter relatives.

And at long last, trump supporters have finally paid a price for their behavior: they no longer have all of their family. And Mitch McConnell can't stop that, there's no filibuster, and it can't be appealed to the Supreme Court where six conservative judges can force families to spend Thanksgiving together.

There are actual, real world consequences that conservatives are experiencing, and they aren't liking it very much because they were firmly convinced that the days of consequences were over...and there's nothing they can do about it.