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Jen Psaki Says No Americans Are ‘stranded’ in Afghanistan

Third example:
Weak dodge dude.

But not denying the support for and dismissal of cruelty from people defending Biden on this topic was a wise move.
 
Weak dodge dude.

Feel free to prove me wrong at any time. :)

Also feel free to demonstrate how many people are "stranded," not delayed, but "stranded," in Kabul.
 
Feel free to prove me wrong at any time. :)

Also feel free to demonstrate how many people are "stranded," not delayed, but "stranded," in Kabul.
What about the ones that have died? I suppose they're just dead and not "stranded".

But since you asked, politco did a piece on this exact topic:

 
What about the ones that have died? I suppose they're just dead and not "stranded".

But since you asked, politco did a piece on this exact topic:


Instead of mindlessly copy-pasting articles, show me exactly where it says that Americans are stranded.
 
Instead of mindlessly copy-pasting articles, show me exactly where it says that Americans are stranded.
How heavy are those goal posts? You previously asked for "people" who are stranded. Now you are dismissing brown people and only concerned about white people. (Which we knew from your ignoring the people who have died...)

But, since you set those heavy goal posts down there, and are far too busy moving them to read even into the first paragraph, here you go:

One video provided to POLITICO showed citizens holding blue U.S. passports who were stuck outside the gates, with a soldier of unknown nationality watching from the wall.

Tens of thousands of Afghans awaiting U.S. visas and thousands of American citizens are still stuck in Kabul, unable to find safe passage through frantic crowds, Taliban checkpoints and Afghan guards stationed outside the airport.

American officials have repeatedly had to close the gates for extended periods, leading guards to turn away even U.S. passport holders.

American citizens are routinely being turned away by Afghan guards at the airport despite showing U.S. passports, according to five sources familiar with the situation. In one instance, a guard told a group to leave the area or he would shoot them. In another, an Afghan interpreter and his family were beaten by Afghan guards after being rejected at the gates, and are now sleeping in their car because the Taliban burned down their house.
 
How heavy are those goal posts? You previously asked for "people" who are stranded. Now you are dismissing brown people and only concerned about white people.

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(Which we knew from your ignoring the people who have died...)

But, since you set those heavy goal posts down there, and are far too busy moving them to read even into the first paragraph, here you go:

Finally, we can get to the source.



Nothing about being "stranded." Delayed is not the same thing as stranded. When people arrive faster than they can be flown out, the lines get LONG.

But our sensationalist media won't report when the lines die down, because that's not as good for ratings. :rolleyes:
 
Doubtless most were in the midst of wrapping up their affairs. Admittedly I have not read the SoS admonitions, but I have not heard of any announcement saying: "All American citizens are ordered to leave Afghanistan now, or you may not be able to leave the country at all henceforth. This is not a test: Your lives are in immediate danger. Leave your places of work and residence now. Do not bother packing or gathering a change of clothes other than what you are wearing. Drop what you are doing, drop any belongings that are not your passport and head to the Kabul Airport immediately for evacuation." I have no doubt most thought they had several weeks if not months to get out while most of the country was still under the control of the Afghan national government and its security forces. The Taliban taking over the country in just a week and the Afghan military and government simply evaporating came as a surprise to all.

Location: Throughout Afghanistan

The U.S. Embassy urges U.S. citizens to leave Afghanistan immediately using available commercial flight options. Given the security conditions and reduced staffing, the Embassy’s ability to assist U.S. citizens in Afghanistan is extremely limited even within Kabul.
 
Let me repeat. They listened to the President who told them they were safe. You are going to hold them accountable because they trusted the word of the President of the United States?
Where does this say they are safe?

Location: Throughout Afghanistan

The U.S. Embassy urges U.S. citizens to leave Afghanistan immediately using available commercial flight options. Given the security conditions and reduced staffing, the Embassy’s ability to assist U.S. citizens in Afghanistan is extremely limited even within Kabul.
 
Among those who are still there are journalists and humanitarian aid workers. Particularly with the latter group, do you really think they've stayed because of the money?

I did not say that! My comment is clear "...to NGO personnel who chose to stay to rescue as many Afghans as they could"
 
I'm vaccinated, and suffered heart inflammation because of it. What does this have to do with the topic of the thread?
Myocarditis has only been reported in kids under 18....no cases of myocarditis in adults have been reported....so, are you under 18? If so, this may not be the proper forum for you.
 
Where does this say they are safe?

Location: Throughout Afghanistan

The U.S. Embassy urges U.S. citizens to leave Afghanistan immediately using available commercial flight options. Given the security conditions and reduced staffing, the Embassy’s ability to assist U.S. citizens in Afghanistan is extremely limited even within Kabul.
So who were they supposed to listen to? A press release by the State Department or the President of the United States?
 
Aug.7

"The U.S. Embassy urges U.S. citizens to leave Afghanistan immediately using available commercial flight options. Given the security conditions and reduced staffing, the Embassy’s ability to assist U.S. citizens in Afghanistan is extremely limited even within Kabul."

"The U.S. Embassy can provide a repatriation loan for U.S. citizens who cannot afford at this time to purchase a commercial ticket to the United States. Please contact the Embassy’s American Citizen Services Unit at KabulACS@state.gov for further information."




Location: Throughout Afghanistan

The U.S. Embassy urges U.S. citizens to leave Afghanistan immediately using available commercial flight options. Given the security conditions and reduced staffing, the Embassy’s ability to assist U.S. citizens in Afghanistan is extremely limited even within Kabul.

Very good that they did so. Here is the follow-up question: How long under normal conditions does it take for a normal civilian worker to leave Afghanistan?

Because I remember hearing that there was no secure route from the U.S. Embassy to the Kabul Airport, and because security could not be guaranteed, that people had to be helicoptered from the Embassy to the Kabul Airport. If that was the main way of leaving, I can imagine that quite a waitlist grew to be helicoptered out. Were there other means of safely egressing the country via overland routes or flights? So that if you received notice in May, and you are doing, say, development work in the countryside, how long would it take to make arrangements and be scheduled to fly out of Afghanistan? Days? Weeks? A month or two?
 
"The likelihood there’s going to be the Taliban overrunning everything and owning the whole country is highly unlikely.” - Joe Biden, July 8th, 2021.
and that clearly changed with the subsequent warnings in mid July and early August....that was sent to Americans in Afghanistan...
 
So who were they supposed to listen to? A press release by the State Department or the President of the United States?
The press release from the State department and btw, it came AFTER, significantly after what Biden said.
 
and that clearly changed with the subsequent warnings in mid July and early August....that was sent to Americans in Afghanistan...
Imagine if the President had told people to leave, instead of arguing with the state department. A united front and similar messaging might have avoided some of this.
 
I agree, we should try to help. However, I don't think the administration needs to be making guarantees or worse yet, perpetuate a fiction that everything is wonderful. (We got plenty of that from the last guy.) They just need to make it clear that a window has closed and 'best effort' is all we can promise at the moment.

This will be frustrating for some people, but that's adulthood.
Obama had plenty of opportunity to pull out, so don't hand us that bullshit.
 
I did not say that! My comment is clear "...to NGO personnel who chose to stay to rescue as many Afghans as they could"

Meh. Let's victim blame and shame them for not making a bee-line to the airport in conditions where their safety could not be guaranteed.
 
Is the WSJ citing "US and coalition evacuations?" Because the CNN article mentions both numbers; that would explain some of the discrepancies.

Edit: Yes, note the U.S. has "facilitated the evacuation of 48,000 people." Quite different from the number the United States has flown out itself.

Good call and reasonable thinking for the discripancy. I will check later
 
Very good that they did so. Here is the follow-up question: How long under normal conditions does it take for a normal civilian worker to leave Afghanistan?

Because I remember hearing that there was no secure route from the U.S. Embassy to the Kabul Airport, and because security could not be guaranteed, that people had to be helicoptered from the Embassy to the Kabul Airport. Were there other means of safely egressing the country via overland routes or flights? So that if you received notice in May, and you are doing, say, development work in the countryside, how long would it take to make arrangements and be scheduled to fly out of Afghanistan? Days? Weeks? A month or two?
maybe 1 to 2 days. They had previous warnings to this that the situation was becoming unstable.

 
Meh. Let's victim blame and shame them for not making a bee-line to the airport in unsafe conditions.

It has already begun.

Tucker right now is making money out of this and his fan base continues to reward him with high ratings. And if you ask them "why" they will answer with a BS excuse like "but he is not a journalist. He is just a political commentator." :rolleyes:
 
The statement was made on July 8...before there was apparent danger.
What!? When the Taliban were at the strongest they had been for 20 years? And after several state department warnings to leave, Biden contradicted them, and then refused to update his stance?

No wonder people were confused.
 
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