To understand the Bible message correctly, it is vital to also understand the language of the times...
-
This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!
Jehovah Witnesses - The Real Truth about John 1:1... (1 Viewer)
- Thread starter Daisy
- Start date
CaughtInThe
DP Veteran
- Joined
- Aug 4, 2017
- Messages
- 139,236
- Reaction score
- 157,072
- Gender
- Undisclosed
- Political Leaning
- Undisclosed
the Earth could very well be Hell (with all the death, disease, child rapes, violence, evil and destruction) and if it is then Satan did a major con job on all of us.
and what's REALLY interesting, is if that's true there are billions of people (over time) that has helped him do the con job (dating back to the beginning).
- Joined
- Oct 18, 2007
- Messages
- 32,061
- Reaction score
- 21,044
- Location
- East Coast - USA
- Gender
- Undisclosed
- Political Leaning
- Centrist
When "Jehovah's Witnesses" and "Real Truth" are in the thread title, you just know the thread's gonna be a real winner.
- Joined
- Sep 29, 2018
- Messages
- 7,937
- Reaction score
- 10,817
- Gender
- Male
- Political Leaning
- Progressive
- Joined
- Jul 23, 2018
- Messages
- 46,451
- Reaction score
- 35,761
- Location
- Zeb's Mountain
- Gender
- Male
- Political Leaning
- Other
- Joined
- Oct 18, 2007
- Messages
- 32,061
- Reaction score
- 21,044
- Location
- East Coast - USA
- Gender
- Undisclosed
- Political Leaning
- Centrist
Posting Youtube videos can be fun.
So, you think the trinity is true...got it...
- Joined
- Mar 29, 2013
- Messages
- 41,481
- Reaction score
- 8,887
- Gender
- Female
- Political Leaning
- Undisclosed
I found the explanation easy to understand...did you?
- Joined
- Mar 29, 2013
- Messages
- 41,481
- Reaction score
- 8,887
- Gender
- Female
- Political Leaning
- Undisclosed
- Joined
- Mar 29, 2013
- Messages
- 41,481
- Reaction score
- 8,887
- Gender
- Female
- Political Leaning
- Undisclosed
Whether it's easy to understand or not......................... is not the point.
We've settled that with the video I gave.
Now, back to my question:
WHAT'S YOUR POINT?
- Joined
- Mar 29, 2013
- Messages
- 41,481
- Reaction score
- 8,887
- Gender
- Female
- Political Leaning
- Undisclosed
"Greek Scholar, the late Dr. Robert countess explains the dishonesty of the NWT committee in translating John 1:1 "a god". Former Jw's Bill Cetnar explains
how the society has even turned to the occult for support of their mistranslation."
- Joined
- Mar 29, 2013
- Messages
- 41,481
- Reaction score
- 8,887
- Gender
- Female
- Political Leaning
- Undisclosed
The more interesting truth regarding JW's interpretation of John1:1, is on the source for NWT's translation.
JOHANNES GREBER.
He communicated with the dead.
Johannes Greber - Wikipedia
That is a lie...we rejected the false doctrine of the trinity long before 1950, when the NWT was 1st published...
- Joined
- Mar 29, 2013
- Messages
- 41,481
- Reaction score
- 8,887
- Gender
- Female
- Political Leaning
- Undisclosed
The more interesting truth regarding JW's interpretation of John1:1, is on the source for NWT's translation.
JOHANNES GREBER.
He communicated with the dead.
I'm talking about the guy who did the translating for your bible.
Last edited:
SuperDS77
DP Veteran
- Joined
- Feb 8, 2022
- Messages
- 7,517
- Reaction score
- 2,955
- Location
- Michigan
- Gender
- Male
- Political Leaning
- Undisclosed
I'll bite.
How do JWs explain John 14:12?
John 14:12
New International Version
12 Very truly I tell you, whoever believes in me will do the works I have been doing, and they will do even greater things than these, because I am going to the Father.
Explain what specifically? As far as the trinity is concerned, this verse still shows it is false...
Gordy327
DP Veteran
- Joined
- Feb 5, 2022
- Messages
- 31,836
- Reaction score
- 29,359
- Gender
- Undisclosed
- Political Leaning
- Undisclosed
That guy just looks insane and sounds it too.
- Joined
- Jul 23, 2018
- Messages
- 46,451
- Reaction score
- 35,761
- Location
- Zeb's Mountain
- Gender
- Male
- Political Leaning
- Other
He, and his all male co-JW Governing Board member carries more weight than Jehovah with members of his religious sect, according to many shunned/ex-JW members. Preaches women are 2nd fiddles to men, and little babies and children are "God's enemies."
Some of the apostles did but I also believe such miraculous works ended when those apostles died off...as for "works greater than these," I think Jesus was reflecting more on the preaching and teaching work in which his future followers would perform, they would be greater than his...they would cover more territory, reach more people, and preach for a longer period of time than he did...that has proven true...
lol...that is a lie...which explains why they are exes...
Gordy327
DP Veteran
- Joined
- Feb 5, 2022
- Messages
- 31,836
- Reaction score
- 29,359
- Gender
- Undisclosed
- Political Leaning
- Undisclosed
Crazy is as crazy does, right? But has he ever explained what a soul is?
- Joined
- Jul 23, 2018
- Messages
- 46,451
- Reaction score
- 35,761
- Location
- Zeb's Mountain
- Gender
- Male
- Political Leaning
- Other
JWs don't actually interpret the bible for themselves. The church elders and Governing Board members tell them what to think. If they don't strictly adhere to the Board members' directives, they are tossed to the curb like trash - even minor children who have been sexually abused. All sex abuse is kept 'in house', and not reported to to the proper legal authorities. They even document the sexual child abuse, and sit on the info. How sick and perverted is that?
Last edited:
Gordy327
DP Veteran
- Joined
- Feb 5, 2022
- Messages
- 31,836
- Reaction score
- 29,359
- Gender
- Undisclosed
- Political Leaning
- Undisclosed
To be fair, most religions tell people what to think or believe because many people seem incapable of thinking for themselves. If they did, they would realize what a BS con job religion really is. Some more than others. And based on the BS that guy in the video says, it's safe to say that's a particularly large steaming pile of it.