I think there will definitely be multiple indictments on several fronts but I think indictments related to the documents case will be coming soon, those related to the 2020 election and perhaps Jan 6th later.
5 years for federal obstruction. Has to start when Trump left the WH. Still 2.5 years to go.
I think you are overstating your case, my friend. While it is true that the investigation was initially limited, Mueller requested, and was granted, an expansion of his remit. But, we forget now how expansive even that limited investigation was. I have a copy of it. That Barr manipulated the outcome is beyond peradventure, but it was a legitimate, if limited, investigation and reached the results it was allowed to.
I seriously doubt that will happen. That would muddy the waters way too much and, as untrue as it might be, would add fuel to the fire of a witch hunt.
In our current climate, you are correct. But in reality, a crime is a crime. In the real world, Trump needs to pay for ALL his crimes.
There is no 'fire' of a witch hunt; only a criminal screaming the words. It might not happen, but it should have nothing to do with trump screaming the words.
It's many more than Trump screaming which hunt. There is nothing to be gained by bundling obstruction while he was President with criminal acts committed post election/presidency. If Garland was going to go there he would have done it early on.
It seems like it should not be in effect while he was in office, but information I see suggests otherwise, making it at least a question. Many legal experts said the deadline was missed.
There's a view that DoJ likes to address all the crimes. My point was that their charging should not be affected by trump screaming witch hunt, one way or another.
I remember people making that very same prediction back in 2017. You guys just dont learn.
It seems to me, if one can't indict a person while in office, then one starts the clock when the person is indictable. I would guess that those arguing the statute has passed are, you guessed it, Trump allies.
And your side guaranteed us Trump would never be indicted. He's currently charged with 34 felonies by NY. Let's not get into predictions.
We agree how it seems it should work; but no, they're more neutral experts, in mainstream reporting. Just google on 'Mueller obstruction charges statue of limitations' and see the reporting.
You're probably right then. I hate to even say it, as I have respect for the AG, but Garland really dropped the ball on all of this since the insurrection. I am stumped as to why that happened.
Even people on the left agree that this indictment by a hyper-partisan prosecutor is largely crap.
Be it crap or be it justified, it's still an indictment that Trump will have to answer to. The jury will decide.
Some do but just wait for the next three!
It's frustrating and reminds of when Obama and Holder let the Bush administration have no accountability. I think they're at least doing better this time with Jack Smith.
I tend to agree. From my time as a prosecutor: charge the easy case to prove and avoid complicated legal issues (like statutes of limitation) that can muddy the waters. Document cases are easy, and obstruction is fairly easy, given the evidence extant. The most you are going to get is a couple of decades in prison - and Trump is a geezer. No sense in overkill.
Statute of limitations would probably prevent that.
The coverage was, writ large, inaccurate. For example, most of what Rachel Maddow said would be in the the report -and in the way she said it would be in the report- was simply not true. What she got correct was who and what was in it, not how it was used in the report.
There is a relevant federal statute: 18 USC 3282. It states that, "(e)xcept as otherwise expressly provided by law," a prosecution for a non-capital offense shall be instituted within five years after the offense was committed. I am not aware of anything specific to obstruction offenses. Nonetheless, there is the concept of "tolling". There are specific provisions that allow an extension, e.g., 18 U.S. Code § 3290 - Fugitives from justice, but I don't think any of them specifically apply. (Interestingly, one that could have, is 18 U.S. Code § 3292 - Suspension of limitations to permit United States to obtain foreign evidence, since some parts of the offenses occurred in foreign countries, but even that is limited to an additional 3 years.)
I completely disagree with both assertions, but I don't want to drag this off into the weeds of another subject. That's the goal of the trolls, and I so hate to accommodate them.