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I've Been Telling The Left This For Months

Maybe you could try again posting facts this time instead of examples of your opinions.



My example illustrated my point very well.

Why bother giving you anything more when you are sticking with your dumb OP effectively claiming that "common sense" tells YOU that masks 100% guarantee to protect mask wearers and there is 0% protection from the spreaders wearing masks.
 
So are you for or against wearing masks?
I am for wearing masks for those who don't want to catch the virus. I am one of those people. I am against forcing people to wear masks who don't want to wear them. If they want to die then let them. But, since there isn't one shred of evidence that a non mask wearer gave a mask wearer the virus, then the left are making too big of a deal out of people who don't want to wear them. If you don't want to get the virus then you wear your mask, just like I do. And, I'm saying that Biden is lying when he says he will get the virus under control with a national mask mandate because we already have those in most of the states and in most of the states cases are surging. So, mask mandates aren't going to get the virus under control. Biden lied about it to get elected. In fact, the country basically already has a mask mandate and things are getting worse and everything else in the Biden plan are things Trump is already doing.
 
Mine protects me, I think. I folded a bandana diagonally and pressed snap fasteners into the corners. I cut straight edges on coffee filters and pin them inside the fold, two overlapping over my mouth and nose so I breathe through two layers of cloth and two layers of filter paper. I wouldn't run or cycle wearing it but it works for ordinary moving around. This is easy to keep around my throat and pull up over my nose when needed, and I tell myself that the layers protect me, too. The bandana is washable, the filters disposable.
 
Imagine how much worse the situation would be if the places that are surging didn’t have mask mandates.
But that is not what Biden and the left have been saying. They have been saying that Biden will control the virus by having a national mask mandate, when most states already have one and are experiencing surges. Take California, for one example. They are a deep blue liberal Democratic state with a Democratic governor who issued a mask mandate in the middle of June while having about 4000 daily cases. Now, in November, with the mask mandate in place for about 7 months, they are having about 8000 cases per day. That's what Biden wants to do for the whole country, and claims it will get the virus under control. That's what he ran his campaign on, criticizing Trump and saying that he will get the virus under control. How is he going to do that when California is twice as bad now as when the mask mandate started 7 months ago? How is that getting the virus under control?
 
Id argue that most cities and states that have mask policies implemented them because of large outbreaks. They happen to be the most densly populated areas in the country. What’s ridiculous is you have big spikes in rural states that should have the least issues containing the virus. Instead, they’ve done nothing to contain it and are facing the price right now.
 
I have been believing you. They are generally about 50% effective for wearer. Cloth. N95 is far more, but uncomfortable.
 

you are correct about the virus being out of control. Trump allowed it to get deep seeded everywhere. We could have been at a much lower baseline number going into the winter. At some point action needs to be taken to get this under control. A national plan has been needed from the start. Too many Governors are Trump sycophants. It’s time for all to get on the same page. Mandate and fine these pricks who don’t wear masks. Focus more on enforcing social distancing. Give the people good information instead of misinformation.
 


What you fail to understand is

If others are not wearing masks, then the others will cause the virus to be
Did not your article say masks protect thr wearer and other people from the wearer?

Do you disagree with the article you posted
 
I've always believed that a mask helps to protect the wearer.

I can't recall you ever having made that statement. You could link me to one from months ago, but it's not really necessary.
 

I still dont get your point. It has always been that medical masks are there to protect others, with the bonus benefit that it reduces your risk as well. It has never been either or or whatever the saying is. I dont understand what you are so bothered about and claiming the CDC agrees with you.. they have always stated what I have stated, as has every medical expert (non Trump morons) in the world. There is a reason that surgeons wear masks in operating rooms... not to prevent that the patient infects them, but so that they, aka the doctor and nurses dont infect the patient. Same reasoning behind surgeons and nurses washing their hands.. you as a patient dont get a full anti-baterical bath before surgery.. only the surgeons and nurses do (on their hands).
 


So if more people wore masks we can save lives and money. It seems like a win/win.
 
Biden's plan is the Trump plan. He has nothing to offer other than what Trump has already done. We don't need draconian measures in Hawaii just because Illinois is out of control. Many of the states with national mask mandates are blue liberal states. Take California and Illinois for examples. They have had mask mandates for months and are out of control. How would Biden's plan be any different in California or Illinois?
 
I've always believed that a mask helps to protect the wearer.

I can't recall you ever having made that statement. You could link me to one from months ago, but it's not really necessary.
I've been arguing with the left about that for literally months on end. I probably have hundreds of posts on the subject.
 
Do you disagree with the CDC? Masks protect the wearer. It is ridiculous to claim that they only work one way and not the other. If you really believe they are more effective at protecting others than for yourself just turn your mask around and wear it the other way and, poof, it will protect you. Common sense is common sense. If it stops virus particles from you breathing out then it is just common sense that it will protect you from breathing in virus particles.
 
I've been arguing with the left about that for literally months on end. I probably have hundreds of posts on the subject.
OK, I believe you. It just seems odd that you've never had that debate with anyone on the right.
 

But no one has ever claimed they only work one way!!!! They are designed to protect people from the user.. that is all. That they also can protect the user from others is just a bonus, but not by design per say.
 
Nobody said “masks don’t protect the wearer at all,” you’re just lying.
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We said the masks protect others MORE than they protect the wearer.

Hope this helps your confusion, but you’ve never once listened to anything liberals actually say about masks. Just keep being dishonest, every goddamned day.
 
None of their political leanings say leftist. You appear to be one of those people who call everyone who disagrees with them a leftist as if it was an insult.
 
HOLY COW. How is this a thread? its an OFFICIAL CONSERVATIVE NARRATIVE to dispute the effectiveness of masks to "cover" for trump's complete incompetence and disgust for America by mocking people for wearing masks. Here's a recent thread based on a lying editorial to push the OFFICIAL CONSERVATIVE NARRATIVE to undermine the effectiveness of masks.


and just to be clear, the Federalist editorial that thread was based on was a lying pile of flaming crap. the CDC said no such thing. Oh and MR, its a bald faced lie that "the science said that masks were not necessary and now for months". Dr Fauci said 8 months ago that when he said he you dont need a mask he was wrong. I think you've lost what little grip you had on reality. I have to ask, why were you not in that thread arguing with the "lefties"?
 
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