Its time USA follow France on taxes

[274ina]

"France cleared to impose controversial 'millionaire tax'"

"It was originally designed as a 75 percent tax to be paid by high earners on the portion of annual income exceeding 1 million euros, but the council rejected it last year, saying it was unfair. France's top administrative court later said that 66 percent was the legal maximum for individuals."

France cleared to impose controversial 'millionaire tax' - World News

to put an end to the USA mega rich basicly paying no taxes......................

Richest 400 Earn More, Pay Lower Tax Rate - Forbes

Then once they start paying for, rather than profitting from the MIC. THen the MIC will end and WW2 will finally be over.

 

[Oftencold]

"France cleared to impose controversial 'millionaire tax'"

"It was originally designed as a 75 percent tax to be paid by high earners on the portion of annual income exceeding 1 million euros, but the council rejected it last year, saying it was unfair. France's top administrative court later said that 66 percent was the legal maximum for individuals."

France cleared to impose controversial 'millionaire tax' - World News

to put an end to the USA mega rich basicly paying no taxes......................

Richest 400 Earn More, Pay Lower Tax Rate - Forbes

Then once they start paying for, rather than profitting from the MIC. THen the MIC will end and WW2 will finally be over.

OK, are you going to send me a check, or cash?

You want to take other people's money for silly social causes? Great. Fork it over baby, I've got a lot of things to spend money on that I think are a lot more important than anything you might have in mind to do with your money!

I wish people who think this way would just be honest enough to take up armed robbery. Since they can't be reasoned with, at least in that case we could resist them with lethal force for trying to do exactly what a thug with a gun tries to do.

 

[Tigger]

Honestly all this would do is force those people to move out of the USA. These rich people in the US are not stupid. They're not going to pay more than necessary.

 

[Graffias]

No matter what rate they're taxed at, the rich will just find a way to dodge taxes anyway.

 

[RabidAlpaca]

OK, are you going to send me a check, or cash?

You want to take other people's money for silly social causes? Great. Fork it over baby, I've got a lot of things to spend money on that I think are a lot more important than anything you might have in mind to do with your money!

I wish people who think this way would just be honest enough to take up armed robbery. Since they can't be reasoned with, at least in that case we could resist them with lethal force for trying to do exactly what a thug with a gun tries to do.

Of course he's not going to send you a check, because people with "Gimme gimme!" syndrome like he has are rarely actually in the class that will be sacrificing. When 274ina sees somebody drive by in a fancy car he's so overwhelmed with jealousy that he has to immediately jump onto an internet forum and demand we take that car away from him.

 

[Tigger]

No matter what rate they're taxed at, the rich will just find a way to dodge taxes anyway.

As all intelligent people do. So long as they're doing it legally, there's nothing wrong with that.

 

[longview]

"France cleared to impose controversial 'millionaire tax'"

"It was originally designed as a 75 percent tax to be paid by high earners on the portion of annual income exceeding 1 million euros, but the council rejected it last year, saying it was unfair. France's top administrative court later said that 66 percent was the legal maximum for individuals."

France cleared to impose controversial 'millionaire tax' - World News

to put an end to the USA mega rich basicly paying no taxes......................

Richest 400 Earn More, Pay Lower Tax Rate - Forbes

Then once they start paying for, rather than profitting from the MIC. THen the MIC will end and WW2 will finally be over.

The short answer, NO!.
The longer answer requires more information.
When an individual ether works for someone, or produces a good or service themselves for others,
their efforts have value.
Who owns the value of the individual's labor, themselves or the government?

 

[joG]

"France cleared to impose controversial 'millionaire tax'"

"It was originally designed as a 75 percent tax to be paid by high earners on the portion of annual income exceeding 1 million euros, but the council rejected it last year, saying it was unfair. France's top administrative court later said that 66 percent was the legal maximum for individuals."

France cleared to impose controversial 'millionaire tax' - World News

to put an end to the USA mega rich basicly paying no taxes......................

Richest 400 Earn More, Pay Lower Tax Rate - Forbes

Then once they start paying for, rather than profitting from the MIC. THen the MIC will end and WW2 will finally be over.

Are you sure you have that right? First of all, the people earning 1 million Dollars are not really rich. A guy like Putin or Gates do not have billions because they made $ 1 million a year. Putin has to have earned $ 3 billion a year to have accumulated 70 of them.
Also high income jobs can easily move. The French are already experiencing that as the jobs have been moving from the country. The US lost a huge amount of bond business, when it introduced a tax. Within months the market had left the country and London became the center for bond transactions.

 

[Oftencold]

No matter what rate they're taxed at, the rich will just find a way to dodge taxes anyway.

BUZZ!

I'm afraid that's the wrong answer. But thank you for playing our game, we have some lovely departing gifts for you!


The rich pay majority of U.S. income taxes

The top 10 percent of taxpayers paid over 70% of the total amount collected in federal income taxes in 2010, the latest year figures are available, according to the Tax Foundation, a think tank that advocates for lower taxes. That's up from 55% in 1986.

The remaining 90% bore just under 30% of the tax burden. And 47% of all Americans pay hardly anything at all -- a fact that got Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney into political hot water last year.

"There's been a huge myth created that the rich aren't paying anything," said William McBride, the Tax Foundation's chief economist. "The rich pay a much higher rate than the poor."

CBO Report: The Rich Pay Most of the Taxes; the Poor Get Checks

Jane Wells, a business news reporter for CNBC, after reviewing the latest report from the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) on who pays income taxes in America, claimed that the rich pay them all. The CBO, wrote Wells, showed that the top 20 percent pay nearly 93 percent of all income taxes, while the top 40 percent pay 106 percent of them.

How is that possible? The bottom fifth of wage earners get more from the government than they pay in taxes. Hence, the anomaly of the so-called rich paying more than 100 percent of all income taxes received by the government.

 

[Oftencold]

As all intelligent people do. So long as they're doing it legally, there's nothing wrong with that.

And yet, there comes a point, as the existence of our country is the living proof, when irrational taxation is to be resisted illegally, even with force. Hey do I hear a fife?!

 

[ludin]

The same thing happened in sweden. They have a millionaires tax there or use to. All of the upper income people went to the government and said drop the tax or we pull our businesses and go elsewhere.

That is the thing about going after rich people they just take their bat and ball and go elsewhere and then you end up like detriot.
if you are complaining that the rich mostly pay capital gain taxes then set a flat rate of 15% and then everyone pays what they do.

then people complain about flat tax.
how about this lets stop trying to rob people and actually solve the problem which is government spending. the government consistantly spends close to 1t more than it takes in.

of course it is easy to spend other peoples money when it isn't yours, but what i find interesting is that people like the OP refuse to follow their own philosophy. they always want someone else to pay for it but don't want to pony up their own money.

this is hypocritical kinda like warren buffett. says he should pay more in tax but uses ever tax break and tax shelter that he can to pay the least amount of taxes.
if you want to stand on principle that is fine, but until you start living it you are just saying empty words.

 

[Mycroft]

"France cleared to impose controversial 'millionaire tax'"

"It was originally designed as a 75 percent tax to be paid by high earners on the portion of annual income exceeding 1 million euros, but the council rejected it last year, saying it was unfair. France's top administrative court later said that 66 percent was the legal maximum for individuals."

France cleared to impose controversial 'millionaire tax' - World News

to put an end to the USA mega rich basicly paying no taxes......................

Richest 400 Earn More, Pay Lower Tax Rate - Forbes

Then once they start paying for, rather than profitting from the MIC. THen the MIC will end and WW2 will finally be over.

This is on par with the rest of the dumb stuff you always say, 274ina.

 

[jonny5]

"France cleared to impose controversial 'millionaire tax'"

"It was originally designed as a 75 percent tax to be paid by high earners on the portion of annual income exceeding 1 million euros, but the council rejected it last year, saying it was unfair. France's top administrative court later said that 66 percent was the legal maximum for individuals."

France cleared to impose controversial 'millionaire tax' - World News

to put an end to the USA mega rich basicly paying no taxes......................

Richest 400 Earn More, Pay Lower Tax Rate - Forbes

Then once they start paying for, rather than profitting from the MIC. THen the MIC will end and WW2 will finally be over.

The mega rich, making making 10 million or more income, pay 65 billion in taxes. How is that basically no taxes? Thats 11,000 people. They pay more taxes than the bottom 50 MILLION income earners.

 

[jonny5]

No matter what rate they're taxed at, the rich will just find a way to dodge taxes anyway.

Except the dont. Those .1% of income earners account for 6% of income tax.

 

[Fenton]

"France
cleared to impose controversial 'millionaire tax'"

"It was originally designed as a 75 percent tax to be paid by high earners on the portion of annual income exceeding 1 million euros, but the council rejected it last year, saying it was unfair. France's top administrative court later said that 66 percent was the legal maximum for individuals."

France cleared to impose controversial 'millionaire tax' - World News

to put an end to the USA mega rich basicly paying no taxes......................

Richest 400 Earn More, Pay Lower Tax Rate - Forbes

Then once they start paying for, rather than profitting from the MIC. THen the MIC will end and WW2 will finally be over.

Bull sh** its time for the US to emulate France's destructive high tax policies.

How about we let Californias similar tax policies play out before we try that stupidity on a National Basis.

 

[Tigger]

And yet, there comes a point, as the existence of our country is the living proof, when irrational taxation is to be resisted illegally, even with force. Hey do I hear a fife?!

True. The difference is that I don't see too many millionaires taking up arms if they can just pick up and move.

 

[Anomalism]

You want to take other people's money for silly social causes?

Healthcare, education and helping the impoverished are such silly causes.

 

[jonny5]

Bull sh** its time for the US to emulate France's destructive high tax policies.

How about we let Californias similar tax policies play out before we try that stupidity on a National Basis.

We probably shouldnt have even responded. Its just the standard class warfare talking points. Its a dead horse.

 

[Mycroft]

Healthcare, education and helping the impoverished are such silly causes.

Actually, those ARE silly causes for the federal government to be involved in.

Every one of those causes should be addressed at the State level...except health care...that should be left to the free market.

 

[jonny5]

Actually, those ARE silly causes for the federal government to be involved in.

Every one of those causes should be addressed at the State level...except health care...that should be left to the free market.

Not even the state level. The individual level first. YOU are responsible for your wealth and health and education. No one else.

 

[Fenton]

Healthcare, education and helping the impoverished are such silly causes.

If only Progressive Policies actually addressed those issues, but alas, they don't and the majority of Americans don't want to give you people a open forum to do any more damage than you've already done in this Country.

What you argue for seems noble, but in reality it's just a bunch of superficial demagogy.

The Progressive attempt to fix all of those issue has one hell of a fine print. It doesn't mention the massive amount of damage done to a free market economy when the Government appoints itself as the final arbiter of who's " worthy ".

It's sappy feel good nonsense in a bubble. Progressives, it's the thought that counts and never the results.

 

[Oftencold]

Healthcare, education and helping the impoverished are such silly causes.

Just because something is named after something that you find desirable, doesn't mean that's what it really is.

"Healthcare," to our government is far more about power, control and manipulating gullible people than is about medicine. Were it otherwise, the harebrained Obamcare hustle would be run by medical logistical experts, medical care providers, medical instructors and insurance experts, not lawyers.

Public Education at the Federal level especially is largely about protecting teacher unions, indoctrination of the defenseless young, power and control.

"Helping the poor," is about bribery, wealth redistribution, vote buying, and of course, power and control.

I want to help the poor by making the private economy so white hot, and the public sector so irrelevant, that great effort would need to be exerted by most individuals who wished to remain impoverished.

So yes, pretty much the things you listed are silly causes. However while I want you to keep your hands off of my money, you should feel free to donate as much of your own to them as seems good to you.

And you know what? If these silly causes were able to show good return on investment, people would give willingly. That they won't given the chance, ought to tell you all you need to know about these scams.

 

[274ina]

Are you sure you have that right? First of all, the people earning 1 million Dollars are not really rich. A guy like Putin or Gates do not have billions because they made $ 1 million a year. Putin has to have earned $ 3 billion a year to have accumulated 70 of them.
Also high income jobs can easily move. The French are already experiencing that as the jobs have been moving from the country. The US lost a huge amount of bond business, when it introduced a tax. Within months the market had left the country and London became the center for bond transactions.

Then let them leave. And ban there product from the USA.

"the people earning 1 million Dollars are not really rich" OMFG..............BEGGING for the gillotine

 

[274ina]

The mega rich, making making 10 million or more income, pay 65 billion in taxes. How is that basically no taxes? Thats 11,000 people. They pay more taxes than the bottom 50 MILLION income earners.

% of income..............we dont care about totalls

 

[Bob Blaylock]

Then let them leave. And ban there [sic] product from the USA.

"the people earning 1 million Dollars are not really rich" OMFG..............BEGGING for the gillotine

So, we'll be left with a nation of only poor people, but it won't matter that nobody has much money, because there won't be much that we could buy anyway.

There is something that even an unabashed taker, such as yourself, needs to realize. There will be no wealth to be taken from others and given to you, if there's nobody working to produce that wealth.

Being a taker, who has surely never done an honest day's work in your life, and never earned an honest wage; you do not have anything, that wasn't forcibly stolen from the very people of whom you want to rid this nation. Get rid of them, and you'll be homeless, naked, and starving in the streets.