It is called Election Day

[Slartibartfast]

What is traditional, is some kind of solution. They will say "it works doesn't it?"

The trick is to propose something clearly better, not just a bit better. For instance, elections being held over friday and saturday would suit regular workers and weekend workers, and would be clearly better than just tuesday.

I'm not saying there should be no postal or pre-poll voting. What I'm saying is that voters who don't trust those, should have two days on which they can vote traditionally.

Two days is better than one day, seven days of polling being open 24/7 at whatever county election office with regular hours early voting being available 7 days a week for two prior to that (3 week period overall) is more optimal.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

How long folks? Care to make a prediction? Weeks, months, years? Will the bleating still be going on in 2024?

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

Mail-in voting was Republicans' idea in my state and a good one at that. I've always voted by mail, before the pandemic. Why do you care? It's not cheating, nothing wrong is happening.

Why create a problem where there isn't one?

Not liking the results is reason enough

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

Odd, MAGAs cast early ballots- tRump for one....

Service men and women cast their votes by mail-in, do you want to require they come home to vote? Many very rural places use mail in or early in person due to long distances to town. Would you deny the physically handicapped the right to vote because they can't stand for hours in line??? Many densely populated areas have few voter stations and long lines to vote. Many workers have long distances to travel from work to vote at their assigned polling place and simply can't afford losing a half day's pay (if the employer allows the worker to leave early/be late to work)

MAGAs are making it harder to vote in person in densely populated areas where in person voting and few voting station produce long lines. Georgia for example prohibits passing out water or food to those waiting in line....

So I don't see the MAGA/Rabid Right's 'concerns' as an attempt at election security but rather a desperate shot at blocking certain areas from having their votes count...

All good points, BUT............. when your side loses you need EXCUSES, guaranteed had there been a BIG RED WAVE, the Righties would be saying the election process worked just fine.

 

[The Stars Tremble]

Two days is better than one day, seven days of polling being open 24/7 at whatever county election office with regular hours early voting being available 7 days a week for two prior to that (3 week period overall) is more optimal.

It is, yes. People with really horrendous work schedules may not be able to make time between 8am and 6 or 7pm, in the week of the election, but they'll just have to postal vote. Two days is better than one, and a whole week is better than two days.

The strike against early voting is that fewer polling places are open. This matters to people without car transport, and to rural people who rely on a small town for shopping (or hardly shop at all, there are still some). So there's some overlap there: having more places to vote early would be an acceptable alternative to the full week of voting.

I can see why some people don't trust postal voting. Though I doubt the US postal services loses mail as often as people claim (it's a common excuse for not actually sending the mail, or pretending you never got it) that's a pretty widespread belief. As to delays, people should be able to get their voting envelope stamped in a post office, and providing that isn't after close of polling on election day, their vote would still count even if the post office took two weeks to deliver it.

But why would people distrust early voting? There's no reason to think it's any less reliable than voting on the day. I don't get it.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

Our democracy will end with ballot harvesting.

People are voting months ahead of an election. They do not even care who the candidate is! They are literally giving their ballots to syndicates who are instructed to fill in the ballot for he whichever candidate has a "D" next to their name.

BLEATING:
a weak, querulous, or foolish complaint.

 

[SNOWFLAKE]

Anyone think we'd be seeing this OP if the "red wave" had happened?

NOPE

 

[The Stars Tremble]

Will the bleating still be going on in 2024?

Elephants don't bleat. They cry down their trunks, it's quite sad, and you want to stand back unless you want a trunkload of mucous on you!

 

[WorldWatcher]

Dr oz was a moderate.

He had a decent shot at winning given Fetterman's stroke and recovery.

He shot himself in the foot when he said abortion was between the woman, her doctor and politicians. IMHO that did him in.

WW

 

[Quag]

So an election has never been stolen before. Are you saying the 2000 election wasn't stolen either?

Lol

But but Hillary !!!
Stop drinking the Kool-Ade, no modern US election has been stolen

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Not Election week, Election month, or Election year.
Why do we allow ballot harvesting where votes are collected weeks/months in advance?
79% of the vote in Nevada were early votes. This is a complete disaster. Why are we voting like there is a pandemic?
There is no reason people should vote 7-days ahead of an election. Are people physically not able to vote on voting day?
The fix is in. The games these Democrats are playing must end.

You're saying we need to change the name from "Election Day" to something like "the election"?​

Good questions.

Why would we need multiple days for the schedules of hundreds of millions of people to line up?
Why can't all Americans be on the exact same work and life schedules?
That seems suspicious to me too.

Everyone needs to switch their work and home life around to match my schedule.
Cause I like my schedule and don't want to switch to anyone else's.

 

[Airyaman]

The Democrats have caused all sorts of havoc in our democracy this past month. Numerous campaign laws have been broken. Our institution has been shaken.

Show your work.

 

[Slartibartfast]

It is, yes. People with really horrendous work schedules may not be able to make time between 8am and 6 or 7pm, in the week of the election, but they'll just have to postal vote. Two days is better than one, and a whole week is better than two days.

The strike against early voting is that fewer polling places are open. This matters to people without car transport, and to rural people who rely on a small town for shopping (or hardly shop at all, there are still some). So there's some overlap there: having more places to vote early would be an acceptable alternative to the full week of voting.

I can see why some people don't trust postal voting. Though I doubt the US postal services loses mail as often as people claim (it's a common excuse for not actually sending the mail, or pretending you never got it) that's a pretty widespread belief. As to delays, people should be able to get their voting envelope stamped in a post office, and providing that isn't after close of polling on election day, their vote would still count even if the post office took two weeks to deliver it.

But why would people distrust early voting? There's no reason to think it's any less reliable than voting on the day. I don't get it.

They want certain results. Its just more voter suppression.

 

[Dragonfly]

The fix is in. The games these Democrats are playing must end.

So in places that allow early voting, and Conservatives win, that's a "fix" too right?
So Republicans/Conservatives are cheating too, right?

So the games the Republicans play must end too, right?

 

[The Stars Tremble]

There's nothing wrong with voting the party instead of the candidate. It's your vote, you should cast it however you like.

So why not open voting before the primaries? "I will vote the Democrat for every office except school board" and then if you never update your vote, you simply don't vote for school board.

Voters don't need to be protected from their own foolishness. The idea that they should listen to the candidates, judge them on character and policy, then make an objective choice about which candidate is best for the office, is just patronizing horseshit. People should cast their vote however they want to.

Oh and btw, "none of these candidates" should be an option on every ballot in the country. If "none of these candidates" should happen to win, the office should remain vacant (unless it's the President, this would just promote Speaker of the House.)

 

[Simon W. Moon]

Show your work.

@Bucky would love to.
Just waiting on the The Conspiracy™ to stop hiding all the evidence.

 

[The Stars Tremble]

They want certain results.

A particular result?

Its just more voter suppression.

If it was voter suppression, I would expect it to clearly serve one of the parties and not the other.

Democrats who work three jobs use early voting. But so do rural people who only go to town once a week. I'm not seeing the partisan advantage in it.

 

[Slartibartfast]

A particular result?



If it was voter suppression, I would expect it to clearly serve one of the parties and not the other.

Democrats who work three jobs use early voting. But so do rural people who only go to town once a week. I'm not seeing the partisan advantage in it.

I didn't say it was a good or successful strategy. This is the same crowd that screwed up much of the rural vote in Texas in their effort to disenfranchise people in the cities with their changes to mail in voting rules. They also caused a backlash in Georgia where people voted in droves early to avoid voter suppression.

 

[Simon W. Moon]

So an election has never been stolen before. Are you saying the 2000 election wasn't stolen either?

Are you saying there was wide-spread electoral fraud in the 200 election?

Or are you just hoping FUD will work for you cause it's all you've got?

 

[Linc]

Not Election week, Election month, or Election year.

Why do we allow ballot harvesting where votes are collected weeks/months in advance?

79% of the vote in Nevada were early votes. This is a complete disaster. Why are we voting like there is a pandemic?

There is no reason people should vote 7-days ahead of an election. Are people physically not able to vote on voting day?

The fix is in. The games these Democrats are playing must end.

GOPs believe in 12-hour voting lines in minority areas in states they run, with extremely few voting outlets. Why do you support that, @Bucky

 

[Linc]

T

So an election has never been stolen before. Are you saying the 2000 election wasn't stolen either?

The 2000 election was clearly stolen, 5-4 by Rehnquist.
It’s why our country is so bucked up today, @Bucky

 

[The Stars Tremble]

I didn't say it was a good or successful strategy. This is the same crowd that screwed up much of the rural vote in Texas in their effort to disenfranchise people in the cities with their changes to mail in voting rules.

The effort or time of the voter should be minimized. If there is any "show cause" at all for postal voting, state officials should investigate with minimal burden on the voter to prove they deserve it. So for instance, if a nurse claims it because he/she is working double shifts around election day, it would be granted unless the electoral authority can prove that he/she is not.

I'm not a huge fan of postal voting, mainly because it does not provide privacy of the vote. But my approach would be to make in-person voting as easy as possible, so there is less demand for postal voting.

 

[BlueTex]

Our democracy will end with ballot harvesting.

People are voting months ahead of an election. They do not even care who the candidate is! They are literally giving their ballots to syndicates who are instructed to fill in the ballot for he whichever candidate has a "D" next to their name.

You didn’t answer the question. Do you believe our country should represented by those chosen by the majority of voters?

 

[BlueTex]

The Democrats have caused all sorts of havoc in our democracy this past month. Numerous campaign laws have been broken. Our institution has been shaken.

Which campaign laws have been broken? Be specific

 

[BlueTex]

Nonsense. Look at all those mail-in votes in Clark County, Nevada.

When you say lives, what are you talking about in Vegas? Playing poker? Visting Strip Clubs? Watching Magic shows?

The # of mail-in votes in Vegas should be alarming.

Why should it be alarming? Eight states already do all voting by mail. It sound like what alarms you is that when a large number of people vote, the GQP gets their assess kicked.