Let us not forget that Mahmoud Abbas, the head of Fatah, is the legitimate head of "state" of the PA, not Hamas who violently seized power in Gaza.
You know you make a strong case for the mass deportation of the Palestinians at the least, and ethnic cleansing at the extreme. Truly though, Israeli responses have been far too mild for many years.And the BS cycle continues. Here is what will happen, as this happens everytime Israel does this.
1. Rogue factions that Hamas cannot control (maybe this time they were follwing Hamas orders I don't know, but Hamas cannot control them) fire rockets into Israel
2. Israel wants to do something and invades Gaza
3. Palestinian civilians gets killed, drives numbers to join Hamas
4. Israel leaves when they are satisifed
5. Hamas regroup, peace between Israel and Palestine takes a few steps back
6. Rogue factions that Hamas cannot control (maybe this time they were follwing Hamas orders I don't know, but Hamas cannot control them) fire rockets into Israel
7. Israel wants to do something and invades Gaza
and so on... the bs cycle continues.
Why is Israel incapable of learning anything from the past. Invasion isn't going to make Hamas go away you know. I thought you would have learnt this in Lebanon, clearly not.
. . . Invasion isn't going to make Hamas go away you know. . .
Hahahaha, Hamas is a rogue faction.And the BS cycle continues. Here is what will happen, as this happens everytime Israel does this.
1. Rogue factions that Hamas cannot control (maybe this time they were follwing Hamas orders I don't know, but Hamas cannot control them) fire rockets into Israel
2. Israel wants to do something and invades Gaza
3. Palestinian civilians gets killed, drives numbers to join Hamas
4. Israel leaves when they are satisifed
5. Hamas regroup, peace between Israel and Palestine takes a few steps back
6. Rogue factions that Hamas cannot control (maybe this time they were follwing Hamas orders I don't know, but Hamas cannot control them) fire rockets into Israel
7. Israel wants to do something and invades Gaza
and so on... the bs cycle continues.
Why is Israel incapable of learning anything from the past. Invasion isn't going to make Hamas go away you know. I thought you would have learnt this in Lebanon, clearly not.
It happened before, read the Old Testament.Yes, please. Let God protect them as they kill people. :roll:
You know you make a strong case for the mass deportation of the Palestinians at the least, and ethnic cleansing at the extreme. Truly though, Israeli responses have been far too mild for many years.
Hahahaha, Hamas is a rogue faction.
No, it's bullets, bombs, mines, bayonets, shrapnel, fire, and falling buildings that make them go away -- off to meet their virgins.
Death is a time honored and most effective tool for use in resolving conflicts.
You know you make a strong case for the mass deportation of the Palestinians at the least, and ethnic cleansing at the extreme. Truly though, Israeli responses have been far too mild for many years.
Abbas is very moderate. Why doesn't Israel support him?
Yeah true, but even rogue factions have hard time controlling rogue factions. I bet if Hamas said to everyone in Gaza that no rockets should be fired into Israel, there would still be rockets being fired into Israel.
I see, those 6,000+ rockets fired from Gaza into Israeli neighborhoods, schools, and shopping districts over the last couple years were fired by rogue elements of Hamas, right?
No, but quite a few were from other factions of the Palestinian political spectrum. Just getting rid of Hamas wont stop the rockets, because military rogue factions of Fata and others will continue to shoot rockets, as long as Israel does what it is doing and has been doing in the occupied areas.
During the Hamas-Israel ceasefire there were rockets.. were they from Hamas or other factions? I would wager most if not all were from factions not under Hamas control or Fata control.. aka rogue groups. You do know that the Palestinians are very fractured politically right? They do tell such things on the biased American TV stations right?
Should Hamas and Fata hit down hard on these groups? Sure, but both sides should hit down on their radical elements and stick to agreements and not continue with actions that piss of the other side.
The biggest problem on the Palestinian side is the total fractioning of the political spectrum... if the Palestinians could agree among themselves instead of fight among themselves and unite, then we might be closer to achieving peace.
But saying that, all it takes is for an Israeli settler to kill another Palestinian, or a group off pissed off Palestinians wanting revenge and attacking a Israeli and then the whole house of cards comes falling down yet again with counter attack, and "security operations".
love how so many are so busy trying to find every excuse under teh sun to 'leave Gaza alone'
It's the rogue terrorist terrorists, not the terrorists that are firing rockets indiscriminately
puhlease
maybe i used terrorist too many times and it confused youAre you trying to argue that the majority of Palestinians are also members of HAMAS?
maybe i used terrorist too many times and it confused you
but i am confident you will be able to comprehend it eventually
Moderate as in:
:roll:
I guess you could characterize him as moderate if you consider the use of rifles more moderate then firing rockets into schools or using cemeteries to luanch said rockets.
You wouldn't protect your family unless you had a rock solid guarantee of success? Your logic is bullcrap.
Tashah said:The current Israeli Defense Minister - Ehud Barak - is a career soldier. No one criticised 2006 Lebanon more than he did. Do you think he is actually stupid enough to reprise those mistakes?
Tashah said:Do you think the Gaza and Lebanon theaters have anything in common?
Tashah said:You really are slipping.
Of course. But that is irrelevant to whether or not an invasion (and possible occupation) is prudent.
At the same time, let's not pretend that Hamas is the legitimate government of Gaza either.
Actually, you have imagined empathy for illusory phantoms of your own construction. It is a common failing, so don't be too hard on yourself. You've simply been taught to imagine people exactly like you and your mates and overlay those models with Palestinian features and names. It's a very old propaganda technique.I guess thats the difference between you and me, I have empathy for the common man.
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