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Israel Latest: Biden Suggests Israel Not Behind Hospital Blast

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Israel's military has vehemently denied responsibility for the hospital explosion, blaming a rocket fired by Islamic Jihad militants in Gaza that it said fell short and hit a parking lot next to the hospital. The U.S. government has not offered its own formal assessment of the evidence in the blast, but Mr. Biden told Netanyahu that "it appears it was done by the other team." He later said his assessment was based on U.S. military "data."

This was the information I was hoping to see, which is corroborating independent evidence on the claim that Israel was not responsible for the hospital blast.

It looks like Hamas is responsible to harming innocent Palestinian bystanders.
 
I just don't see what possible strategic/tactical benefit there would be for Israel to bomb a hospital. It would only jeopardize the moral "upper hand" image they have in the world today. Even if Hamas was hiding weapons or fighters there, they could easily get there and surgically root them out.

But if Hamas did it, either it was just a mistake, like a stray rocket; or done on purpose, to damage that image of the Israeli moral "upper hand".

That's why I am leaning toward that theory that Hamas did it, either intentionally or by mistake- but again I don't have all the intelligence Biden is probably getting. So I guess we will see.
 


Israel's military has vehemently denied responsibility for the hospital explosion, blaming a rocket fired by Islamic Jihad militants in Gaza that it said fell short and hit a parking lot next to the hospital. The U.S. government has not offered its own formal assessment of the evidence in the blast, but Mr. Biden told Netanyahu that "it appears it was done by the other team." He later said his assessment was based on U.S. military "data."

This was the information I was hoping to see, which is corroborating independent evidence on the claim that Israel was not responsible for the hospital blast.

It looks like Hamas is responsible to harming innocent Palestinian bystanders.
That’s going to hurt a lot of the Hamas supporters in this boards feelings.
 
I said yesterday that it didn't make sense for Israel to bomb a hospital the day before Biden's visit.

It's really too late though, there isn't any convincing the people protesting across the region that it wasn't Israel. Any hope of cooperation between other countries in the area has evaporated. Turkey is also in a bad spot now.
 
I just don't see what possible strategic/tactical benefit there would be for Israel to bomb a hospital. It would only jeopardize the moral "upper hand" image they have in the world today. Even if Hamas was hiding weapons or fighters there, they could easily get there and surgically root them out.

But if Hamas did it, either it was just a mistake, like a stray rocket; or done on purpose, to damage that image of the Israeli moral "upper hand".

That's why I am leaning toward that theory that Hamas did it, either intentionally or by mistake- but again I don't have all the intelligence Biden is probably getting. So I guess we will see.
I wouldn't put it past Hamas doing it trying to blame it on the Israeli people and trying to get people of the world against the Israeli people.
Have a nice day
 
Of course Israel will deny it was them; just like they did on other occasions, only to walk back later. Israel routinely denies any wrongdoing where Palestine is concerned. Always.
In this case, Biden is citing US DOD data as another source.
 
You'll see the crowds of people who shouted death to Israel in mass "protests" in various countries disappear into their dark holes now and say nothing about it.
Just like they say nothing about the fact that Hamas launched rockets that hit the maternity ward at Barzilai Hospital of Ashkelon several days ago.

Selective morality is worse than no morality at all.
 
You'll see the crowds of people who shouted death to Israel in mass "protests" in various countries disappear into their dark holes now and say nothing about it.
Just like they say nothing about the fact that Hamas launched rockets that hit the maternity ward at Barzilai Hospital of Ashkelon several days ago.

Selective morality is worse than no morality at all.

I doubt that.

The people protesting across the world, aren't going to stop.
 
How convenient a bomb hit just before Biden ready to travel. Lebanon is itching to get the US into the war starting with the violence at the US Embassy ongoing now.
 


Israel's military has vehemently denied responsibility for the hospital explosion, blaming a rocket fired by Islamic Jihad militants in Gaza that it said fell short and hit a parking lot next to the hospital. The U.S. government has not offered its own formal assessment of the evidence in the blast, but Mr. Biden told Netanyahu that "it appears it was done by the other team." He later said his assessment was based on U.S. military "data."

This was the information I was hoping to see, which is corroborating independent evidence on the claim that Israel was not responsible for the hospital blast.

It looks like Hamas is responsible to harming innocent Palestinian bystanders.
Hamas wants their civilians to be killed. Hamas was blocking people from leaving the areas Israel warned them to evacuate.
 
That's interesting ...

I have the news running on the TV in my hobbyroom/office and it looks like it was potentially a second terrorist organization called "Palastinian Islamic Jihad"
 


Israel's military has vehemently denied responsibility for the hospital explosion, blaming a rocket fired by Islamic Jihad militants in Gaza that it said fell short and hit a parking lot next to the hospital. The U.S. government has not offered its own formal assessment of the evidence in the blast, but Mr. Biden told Netanyahu that "it appears it was done by the other team." He later said his assessment was based on U.S. military "data."

This was the information I was hoping to see, which is corroborating independent evidence on the claim that Israel was not responsible for the hospital blast.

It looks like Hamas is responsible to harming innocent Palestinian bystanders.
Of course he has to say that, while sitting next to the Prime Minister of Israel.

There is zero doubt that it was Israel behind this.. no malfunctioning or shot down rocket would be able to kill 400+ people.

Plus the social media dude for the IDF admitted it on Elon Musk net, before he deleted it..
 
I said yesterday that it didn't make sense for Israel to bomb a hospital the day before Biden's visit.

It's really too late though, there isn't any convincing the people protesting across the region that it wasn't Israel. Any hope of cooperation between other countries in the area has evaporated. Turkey is also in a bad spot now.
That's where I've been leaning after this story broke, but what I don't know if this was a location Hamas was using for weapons storage etc. When word came out of this potentially being a failed Hamas missile launch, that certainly seemed possible too. It would be great to have more conclusive information to know where the missile/bomb came from rather than all of this speculation.
 
Hamas are terrorists.

Why anyone would think that terrorists are above bombing a hospital is beyond me.

I’m absolutely amazed at how quickly the “Israel bombed a hospital” narrative spread.
From the standpoint of the Left, Israel is engaged in an illegal occupation, not just of West Bank, Gaza, Golan Heights and East Jerusalem, but also of the land within the rest of the current state of Israel.

When Hamas attacks Israeli civilians, they claim to be engaging occupiers and combatants. They also hide their munitions and weaponry in and around civilian buildings, including hospitals, which is why Israel has to warn people to get out of these buildings. Then Hamas makes the people stay, so if Israel bombs a building, the civilian casualities are Israel's war crime. They then ignore that putting the military stuff in hospitals and civilian buildings is, itself, a war crime.

Here, Israel says they didn't bomb it, and they say that Hamas missiles were fired and at least one of them malfunctioned causing the blast with their own missile. It was a self-inflicted wound. Now, I don't know what is true, and neither do the news reporters. So, maybe Israel bombed it. Maybe Hamas missile malfunctioned.

To me, I still don't see what Israel's alternative is. They have to destroy hamas, and hamas is hiding in these places. Hamas controls the continuation of the matter -- they can surrender, and release their hostages. They can lay down their arms and Israel will stop.
 
POTUS about to give remarks. This is a big moment.
 
Hamas are terrorists.

Why anyone would think that terrorists are above bombing a hospital is beyond me.

I’m absolutely amazed at how quickly the “Israel bombed a hospital” narrative spread.
Hamas would have a lot to lose if they did this intentionally, since they need the backing of Palestinians to continue. It doesn't take that long for other groups to form against it, as we've seen happen throughout the history of this conflict.
 
That's interesting ...

I have the news running on the TV in my hobbyroom/office and it looks like it was potentially a second terrorist organization called "Palastinian Islamic Jihad"
It's all the same sh!t upside down.
 
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