In matters of International Law regarding another nation? Yeah, it does.
We are discussing the MODERN nation of Israel. Prior to 1948, there had not been a nation of Israel for nearly 2000 years, as your source helpfully explains.
Next time be more specific when you demand evidence and we wont have this problem
And exactly how did the US create the modern Israel? Did we send troops? Did Europe? Please, engross us with your fascinating answer...
In NO matters does the UN supersede American sovereignty.
The United States, like the rest of the world, has never recognized Israel's sovereignty over territory occupied in the 1967 war. Still, the two countries always "managed to work out a modus vivendi because more compelling strategic concerns trumped whatever they were quarreling about," said Dore Gold, who was a political adviser to Netanyahu during his first stint as prime minister more than a decade ago.
Gold cited Israel's 1997 decision to build the Har Homa development in East Jerusalem just after Netanyahu signed a deal turning over most of the West Bank city of Hebron to Palestinian control. At the time, the United States vetoed two proposed U.N. Security Council resolutions criticizing Israel for the project.
The difference was that then-President Bill Clinton believed Netanyahu could make progress toward peace, observers said. Obama does not appear to share that sentiment. "There was trust between the president and our prime minister," Hasson said. "Now we don't have it."
Actually, I was simply pointing out that new construction inside a city does not constitute the formation of a "settlement", as the area is obviously already "settled".so, you would have us excuse this illegal construction and displacement of the existing residents because of a semantic distinction
no wonder the expression 'to be jewed' out of something has won widespread acceptance
No offense, but the western nations CREATED ISRAEL in the first place. :roll:
In matters of International Law regarding another nation? Yeah, it does.
The United Nations and the Jewish residents of Israel created it. And, when it was fighting for its life against its Muslim neighbors in 1948, they are the ones who won thier freedom. When their freedom was again threatened in 1967 and 1972, they won those conflicts and preserved their independence.
Perhaps your arrogance comes from living in a country that doesn't have a significant threat from its neighbors.
Israel approves new building in east Jerusalem - Business- msnbc.com
Cabel is a member of Netanyahu's own party. Apparently, he's come to the same conclusion that I have...that Netanyahu, for whatever reasons, is actually sabotaging his relationships with western nations.
Two thoughts. First, the Jewish people on their own were powerless to create Israel. The UN, LED BY THE WESTERN NATIONS, created Israel out Palestine.
Secondly, I live in America. We've been invaded by 20 million of our southern neighbors illegally, and I've dealt with them in a criminal capacity for nearly 20 years. Perhaps you should save your assumptions and focus on the topic.
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i am hoping he will execute an executive order prohibiting any financial or military assistance to israel while any settlements are under construction within the disputed territories
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77% of British Mandate 'Palestine' was lopped and made Jordan, no Jews allowed.
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Jordan is 70% 'Palestinian'.
Leaving the other 23% divided roughly 13-10 for the Jews.
Meaning the Arabs aka Palestinians got 87% of Mandate Palestine.
(the Pink AND Red Areas)
And ½ of the Jews 13% was the Negev Desert. (lower ½ the light Blue Area above)
So Jews really got about 6% of the usable land of the Original Mandate.
AND unlike in The surrounding states... Arabs still live in/make up 20% of Current Israel's population within that land.
2/3 of what became Israel was State Land, passing from the Ottomans, to the British, to the Jews; owned by NO Arab.
This Includes the Half alone of Israel that was/Is the Negev Desert.
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Yes, the lower half of that little that red spot/Israel- is the Negev Desert, State Land under the Ottomans, owned by No Arab. (and about 15-20% more that was also state land). And 20% of the population of the upper half of the Red Dot- is Arab.
Further...
No Land Changed Hands when the UN created Israel AND Palestine.. Resolution 181.
It entailed Not a Single Arab having to move.
Displacement/refugees was the Result of the ARAB-started War/rejection of the partition.
Had they not started that war, they would probably be a majority in Israel now instead of the fully enfranchised 20% they are now.
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Inside a city. Inside East Jerusalem which the Palestinians wish to make their capital. We heard that this extra construction is even in a Palestinian area.
It sounds to me that Israel is just shouting very loud that she has no interest in peace.
Both announcements timed to embarrass would seem to indicate that Israel knows that she is in for problems for going against what she said but is relying on Congress to also not be interested in peace in the ME and to go against Obama.
Who created Israel out of What?
Look how the Muslims treat us, and all of the Western world. It is the Muslims that should be wiped from the face of the earth, in my opinion. They have said over and over that they want to wipe out Israel, and the United States.
It is about time people in the West realize that the Muslims have been at this for nearly 13 centuries. They have waged war against the Christian world for 13 centuries. Apologists want to blame U.S./European policy in the Middle East for the current state of affairs, but the fact is that Muslims have been waging jihad against Christians since the first expansion of Arab-Muslims from the Hedjaz in the 630s. Why can't people grasp this VERY SIMPLE fact?
Oh, the Crusades were waged by Muslims against Christians? Trying to pass off your ignorance of history as facts is pathetic. In case you forgot, it was the Holy Roman Empire that banned Jews from their holiest city. After Patriarch Sophronius surrendered the city, Caliph Umar allowed Jews back into Jerusalem after 500 years of oppressive Christian rule.
I think you should read up on some history, Digsbe. The U.S. has NEVER acknowledged Israel's "right" to East Jerusalem.
That is history revisionism I'm afraid.Two thoughts. First, the Jewish people on their own were powerless to create Israel. The UN, LED BY THE WESTERN NATIONS, created Israel out Palestine.
The Crusades were a RESPONSE to centuries of Islamic aggression against Christian lands. Do you know what sparked the calls for the First Crusade in the first place?
Be wary of casting the stone of historical ignorance lest you show it yourself.
So these lands are Christian lands now? Care to explain why these are Christian lands?
And yes, I know what sparked the calls for the First Crusade. Do you? Do the words 'Erdmann thesis' mean anything to you?
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