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Isn't the shooter simply honoring Charlie Kirk's legacy?

CLAX1911 said:
Attempting to interpret garbage

Tried i still interpret your garbage this way. If you are misunderstood clear it up. If you refuse than it's probably not misunderstood.
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Expending so much energy on mere garbage.....not buying what the troll is attempting to sell me.

Try again.
 
CLAX1911 said:
You received feedback but fail to clear up your message.

I think my try nailed you. Your just trying to save face. It's not a nice try it's pathetic.
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Your feedback was merely noise. No more than expected from a troll.

Try again.
 
quip said:
Your feedback was merely noise. No more than expected from a troll.

Try again.
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If I misunderstood what you said clear it up. There's no try again that's how I interpret it if I'm wrong it's your responsibility to explain. I can't try again there's nothing to try I criticized you and you ran away.
 
CLAX1911 said:
If I misunderstood what you said clear it up. There's no try again that's how I interpret it if I'm wrong it's your responsibility to explain. I can't try again there's nothing to try I criticized you and you ran away.
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I've granted the troll all the clarification he merits.
Sucks to be a troll, yes?
 
quip said:
By now everyone knows Kirk's quote:

“I think it’s worth it. It’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God given rights. That’s a prudent deal. It is rational,”​

I understand - by way of popular, conservative rationalization - the 'costs' incurred by such prudence are generally left for others to pay....though, surprisingly enough, not in this case.

How do those on the right (specifically 2A defenders) reconcile a retaliatory call for retribution in spite of Charlie himself waging the toll his own rhetoric demanded?

Did you disagree with him regarding this?
Or was it just bluster?
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Sure, the same way a drunk driver "honors the legacy" of someone who admits that some number of traffic fatalities is worth it for the convenience and utility provided by the automobile when he plows into them while running a red light.

Not sure what your point is, really.
 
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quip said:
By now everyone knows Kirk's quote:

“I think it’s worth it. It’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God given rights. That’s a prudent deal. It is rational,”​

I understand - by way of popular, conservative rationalization - the 'costs' incurred by such prudence are generally left for others to pay....though, surprisingly enough, not in this case.

How do those on the right (specifically 2A defenders) reconcile a retaliatory call for retribution in spite of Charlie himself waging the toll his own rhetoric demanded?

Did you disagree with him regarding this?
Or was it just bluster?
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I don't recall Kirk ever saying people should use guns to murder each other, anymore than Democrats who drink gin and drive Porsches think that they should drive their cars drunk at 120mph down crowded city streets.
 
Grizzly Adams said:
Sure, the same way a drunk driver "honors the legacy" of someone who admits that some number of traffic fatalities is worth it for the convenience and utility provided by the automobile when he plows into them while running a red light.

Not sure what your point is, really.
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😂 You just illustrated my point, really:

That's exactly what it does....though the value and utility of the automobile serves society exponentially greater than the sole, lethal benefit of the firearm....thus, given the pragmatic mundanity of automobile use plus their ubiquity, suggests the potential for their political discourse (and subsequent political value) remains close to nil. The gun, by contrast and by rhetoric, is categorically (and constitutionally) unique. Yes?

As such, I challenge you to discover an otherwise identical advocate for automobiles, who's died by the dispassionate method of his own rhetoric....and suggest lowering our national flag to half mast in his or her honor!

Otherwise, your attempt at gun apologetics is nothing more than spurious horseshit.
 
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Noodlegawd said:
I don't recall Kirk ever saying people should use guns to murder each other, anymore than Democrats who drink gin and drive Porsches think that they should drive their cars drunk at 120mph down crowded city streets.
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I believe you owe @Grizzly Adams some royalty payments. 💰
 
quip said:
😂 You just illustrated my point, really:

That's exactly what it does....though the value and utility of the automobile serves society exponentially greater than the sole, lethal benefit of the firearm....thus, given the pragmatic mundanity of automobile use plus their ubiquity, suggests the potential for their political discourse (and subsequent political value) remains close to nil. The gun, by contrast and by rhetoric, is categorically (and constitutionally) unique. Yes?

As such, I challenge you to discover an otherwise identical advocate for automobiles, who's died by the dispassionate method of his own rhetoric....and suggest lowering our national flag to half mast in his or her honor!

Otherwise, your attempt at gun apologetics is nothing more than spurious horseshit.
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So it's still a fact that you are weighing deaths against the utility of privately owned motor vehicles. You're assigning greater value to that utility, than to the lives it costs for you to conveniently utilize those vehicles.
 
RF667799 said:
So it's still a fact that you are weighing deaths against the utility of privately owned motor vehicles. You're assigning greater value to that utility, than to the lives it costs for you to conveniently utilize those vehicles.
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It only matters with guns because those are weapons and if you have weapons you have power and he doesn't want you to have power he wants you to be a subject of a police state.
 
RF667799 said:
So it's still a fact that you are weighing deaths against the utility of privately owned motor vehicles. You're assigning greater value to that utility, than to the lives it costs for you to conveniently utilize those vehicles.
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We weigh such matters upon many things, from vaccines to power tools. The question to ask is what makes the firearm unique in this regard. Perhaps, the ever increasing social costs of firearms are continuing to expand beyond their functional utility, is one point to ponder. 🤔
 
quip said:
We weigh such matters upon many things, from vaccines to power tools. The question to ask is what makes the firearm unique in this regard. Perhaps, the ever increasing social costs of firearms are continuing to expand beyond their functional utility, is one point to ponder. 🤔
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The point is that firearms aren't unique in this regard.
 
quip said:
The zealous, flag waving 2A/gun rhetoric would indicate otherwise.
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Let's talk about how we agree they aren't unique in this regard, and leave the strawmen out of it.
 
RF667799 said:
Let's talk about how we agree they aren't unique in this regard, and leave the strawmen out of it.
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Rather let's talk about how mundane firearms are when the current narrative requires it yet, an extraordinary, amendment worthy, bastion of American freedom .....otherwise. 🇺🇲
 
quip said:
Rather let's talk about how mundane firearms are when the current narrative requires it yet, an extraordinary, amendment worthy, bastion of American freedom .....otherwise. 🇺🇲
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No, I would rather weak stay on the topic you established, even though you're trying to run from it now.

All I will say to your aborted rabbit hole, is that speech itself is mundane.
 
trixare4kids said:
I believe every human being has the right to defend their own lives. However they choose to do this isn't the point.
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Kirk had the right to defend himself, but I guess he just wasn’t very good at it.
 
RF667799 said:
No, I would rather weak stay on the topic you established, even though you're trying to run from it now.

All I will say to your aborted rabbit hole, is that speech itself is mundane.
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Ummm. Ok.

Speaking of running away....are firearms utterly unique representations of liberty or just another household appliance?
 
AConcernedCitizen said:
Kirk had the right to defend himself, but I guess he just wasn’t very good at it.
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Total non-sequitur to the discussing reposted below. Save that straw for the barnyard animals.

quip said:
By now everyone knows Kirk's quote:

“I think it’s worth it. It’s worth to have a cost of, unfortunately, some gun deaths every single year so that we can have the Second Amendment to protect our other God given rights. That’s a prudent deal. It is rational,”
trixare4kids said:
I believe every human being has the right to defend their own lives. However they choose to do this isn't the point.
 
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