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Is your phone camera always 'watching'?

Chock Full o Nuts

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I've had the regular occasions where, say reading or responding to something about a widget or whatever here on DP leads to popping open Google, MSN, etc. news aggregate, and wouldn't you know, there's an ad for said widget!

Yesterday, was on a job that had a decorative engraved stone sitting in drive waiting to be installed, and I know at some point I had my phone out for it to be in view of.
Well what do you know. Open news agg this morning, and there is an ad for just that type of stone!
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Such a coincidence.:unsure:
Makes one wonder.
 
It's the Google searches and browsing history not the camera. That and/or coincidence. The camera is not always watching. Phone OS's are very sensitive and transparent as to what app is using the camera or microphone and making sure it has permission to do so. And Google and Apple are not secretly camera spying for targeted advertising.
 
I've had the regular occasions where, say reading or responding to something about a widget or whatever here on DP leads to popping open Google, MSN, etc. news aggregate, and wouldn't you know, there's an ad for said widget!

Yesterday, was on a job that had a decorative engraved stone sitting in drive waiting to be installed, and I know at some point I had my phone out for it to be in view of.
Well what do you know. Open news agg this morning, and there is an ad for just that type of stone!
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Such a coincidence.:unsure:
Makes one wonder.
My wife's tablet and my phone communicate at some level too. I get ads related to her searches and vice versa.
 
Nothing you do with your phone is private. Everything you view on your phone or say within "earshot" of Siri, Alexa, or Google Assistant, is recorded and saved in the cloud. AI powered algorithms then scan this information and use it to build a profile of who you are, and this profile is sold to advertising companies which use it to send you targeted ads.
 
It's the Google searches and browsing history not the camera. That and/or coincidence. The camera is not always watching. Phone OS's are very sensitive and transparent as to what app is using the camera or microphone and making sure it has permission to do so. And Google and Apple are not secretly camera spying for targeted advertising.
Aware of permissions and such, and I avoid giving them as much as possible. Been a time or two I've considered some app for some reason, then it asks for permission, sometimes with no legit need to make it work. Well no thanks then.

This instance was no search or typing of any sort. Or even talking about it. Very odd coincidence though.
 
My wife's tablet and my phone communicate at some level too. I get ads related to her searches and vice versa.
Same here.
And have had some times wife and I were just talking about something, while later, ad.
Of course I threw this in CT, but it has happened enough to make one wonder.
 
Yes. The phone is always listening, too. I see and hear ads for stuff from casual conversations somewhat regularly.
 
Nothing you do with your phone is private. Everything you view on your phone or say within "earshot" of Siri, Alexa, or Google Assistant, is recorded and saved in the cloud. AI powered algorithms then scan this information and use it to build a profile of who you are, and this profile is sold to advertising companies which use it to send you targeted ads.
But again, Not a thing was typed, searched or said out loud about this.
 
I never wanted any device I could talk to in my home or car, When Netflix refused to support my "old" (in their eyes) television I bought a Firestick only to learn that I now had an electronic eavesdropper. I had no idea that a Firestick had one of those "people" in it and that now I had the equivalent of a television that could "communicate" with me via voice. When my last flip phone died I went without any mobile phone for at least a month. Now I have a cell phone that I can't (don't want to) learn how to use. I leave it in my Jeep. I guess it records my mentally ill daughter and me speaking as I drive her to appointments. And it can record the radio stations she and I choose (very different ones).

I was meeting someone I had never met before that I knew on-line at a Starbucks here in Connecticut last week. We exchanged cell phone numbers in case of any trouble. But I forgot my cell phone and left it in my Jeep. So when she got stuck in traffic, she had to call the Starbucks and someone had to go around asking if anyone there was "NewfieMom". It's a good thing I warned her that I really don't use my cell phone. That was totally unintentional.

Yes, I think televisions and cell phones with voice activation record everything. I am sure of it.
 
I'm not aware of the camera being used in this way, but it wouldn't surprise me.
No idea myself. Just odd I know I had my phone out in the area at some point, and then...

Maybe I had seen ads for the stones in the past, but paid no attention. Only until I saw one yesterday, and then this morning?:unsure: Well that's odd...
Reading into too much?🤷‍♂️
 
It's the Google searches and browsing history not the camera. That and/or coincidence. The camera is not always watching. Phone OS's are very sensitive and transparent as to what app is using the camera or microphone and making sure it has permission to do so. And Google and Apple are not secretly camera spying for targeted advertising.

Several search engines HAVE in fact admitted to using passive voice recording applications for reasons they said were "to better target consumers for ad placement".
Alexa, while not a traditional search engine, insists they do not allow mysterious woo woo big brother uses for those recordings.
That said, there remains wide latitude for "law enforcement" (used now in quotes given our mafia fascist police state today) to force access when DoJ signs off on national security or federal felony investigation purposes.

The takeaway however, is that these applications focus on "key words" and not entire conversations, the amount of bandwidth required to sift through entire convos by hundreds of millions of users would be insane. Or let's just say "expensive" instead, because in the end that is what counts for business.

The processing power to actually do so resides mostly in the Federal Government but again, we are talking about record setting processor power and insane bandwidth use.
Now, large AI data centers are indeed being built and it is no secret that work is in progress to make that less taxing. It remains to be seen how business tries to position itself,
and given our situation today, the idea of partnering with what passes for a government is not out of the realm of possibility.
That's digital fascism, isn't it?

And don't forget, states have been eavesdropping electronically longer than many of you have been alive...EN MASSE.
Up to two thirds of East Germans were spying on each other at some level in service to the state.

I wish I knew more about programming to speak with more intelligence about this but sadly I spent my life using tools for creative purposes, not designing or inventing them.
After nearly forty years in a very satisfying occupation in film and video I am now once again a dinosaur, technologically speaking.
I managed to avoid extinction when media switched from analog to digital in the Nineties but as of about 2018 or 2019 I've been pretty much put out to pasture
to play music and play with classic cars instead.

Could be worse.
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If we are talking about VIDEO, now you HAVE to have a specific cost justification.
The capability exists but again, now we're talking real money, there has to be a reason to tax existing video applications for furtive purposes on a wide scale.
But further to the point, both Apple and Android seem to lack the ability to engage a camera without showing a display to the user.

We have seen that it is theoretically possible to hack into microphones and cameras for passive recording purposes over the internet however when it comes to a phone, I may be wrong, but I do not believe it's possible to trigger photo or video without it being obvious to the user.
Applications must ask permission to access these devices.

So what's the score on the "back door" ?
Anyone? Anyone?
 
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Several search engines HAVE in fact admitted to using passive voice recording applications for reasons they said were "to better target consumers for ad placement".
Alexa, while not a traditional search engine, insists they do not allow mysterious woo woo big brother uses for those recordings.
That said, there remains wide latitude for "law enforcement" (used now in quotes given our mafia fascist police state today) to force access when DoJ signs off on national security or federal felony investigation purposes.

The takeaway however, is that these applications focus on "key words" and not entire conversations, the amount of bandwidth required to sift through entire convos by hundreds of millions of users would be insane. Or let's just say "expensive" instead, because in the end that is what counts for business.

The processing power to actually do so resides mostly in the Federal Government but again, we are talking about record setting processor power and insane bandwidth use.
Now, large AI data centers are indeed being built and it is no secret that work is in progress to make that less taxing. It remains to be seen how business tries to position itself,
and given our situation today, the idea of partnering with what passes for a government is not out of the realm of possibility.
That's digital fascism, isn't it?

And don't forget, states have been eavesdropping electronically longer than many of you have been alive...EN MASSE.
Up to two thirds of East Germans were spying on each other at some level in service to the state.

I wish I knew more about programming to speak with more intelligence about this but sadly I spent my life using tools for creative purposes, not designing or inventing them.
After nearly forty years in a very satisfying occupation in film and video I am now once again a dinosaur, technologically speaking.
I managed to avoid extinction when media switched from analog to digital in the Nineties but as of about 2018 or 2019 I've been pretty much put out to pasture
to play music and play with classic cars instead.

Could be worse.
jeremy-clarkson-top-gear.gif
It's good. We don't want to forget the knowledge. Someday we may want or need to convert digital to analog again. I know I've done some of that myself lately. Physical media, saving them, using them, creating them from digital media for consumption.
 
Yes. The phone is always listening, too. I see and hear ads for stuff from casual conversations somewhat regularly.

you are ALL wrong again.

my phone doesn't listen to me, it is a wall phone and very dumb. the only thing it does is talk...

remember these....


1755370373490.webp...i call them wall phones and have one sitting on my desk with a Real cord that comes out of it. and no, i don't use a cordless wall phone either.


blessings. Zero days.

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you are ALL wrong again.

my phone doesn't listen to me, it is a wall phone and very dumb. the only thing it does is talk...

remember these....


View attachment 67584861...i call them wall phones and have one sitting on my desk with a Real cord that comes out of it. and no, i don't use a cordless wall phone either.


blessings. Zero days.

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Who do you call? Who calls you?
 
Who do you call? Who calls you?

mostly my Handlers in Dee Cee (and Moscow on occasion).

i get paid on the number of posts i make here, the quality of them, and how many views they get.


that is an Odd question Helix, why do you inquire?

thanks.



blessings. Zero days.

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you are ALL wrong again.

my phone doesn't listen to me, it is a wall phone and very dumb. the only thing it does is talk...

remember these....


..i call them wall phones and have one sitting on my desk with a Real cord that comes out of it. and no, i don't use a cordless wall phone either.


blessings. Zero days.

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So does everyone else, because that's what it is. And if it's on your desk, isn't it a PITA to keep hung up without sliding 'off the hook'?
 
So does everyone else, because that's what it is. And if it's on your desk, isn't it a PITA to keep hung up without sliding 'off the hook'?

i like it when it goes off the hook,
give me more time to spread my Messages on this forum and hopefully Save the Planet.

all i need to do is answer The Red Phone 2 times daily am and pm, when my handlers call me with what to publish here.

also have a flip phone in the car, but only need that when on Secret Infiltration assignments; some of them outside the country and require 'Burner Phones'.

and yes Chock, if you get into the business, become a Double Agent which gets you paid twice. just juggle yur schedule a little bit.

i talk to one set of Handlers in the morning and the other only at night; can't screw that up. wear dark glasses and a Trench Coat..........just look the part.


blessings. Zero days.


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Crystal has a whopper video for September mr Chock, have you seen this one yet ????

NEW DREAMS! JESUS IS COMING SEPTEMBER!! Rapture SOON!!!

Crystal, thank you for sharing these dreams and your heart with such humility, wisdom, and boldness. I deeply appreciate how you balanced excitement about the Lord’s soon return with a strong biblical caution against setting exact rapture dates. Your message about Jesus sending gifts ahead like a bridegroom is beautiful—and such a powerful reminder of His joy in preparing us for the wedding day. Also, thank you for defending the faith of new believers by warning against the emotional harm of failed date-setting. That’s such a needed voice right now. Keep proclaiming, keep watching, and keep stirring up the bride. Maranatha! 10 days ago @TAITheologian





Last summer I woke up to roll over in the middle of the night, I heard the voice of a man say to me "the rapture I'm coming soon." I believe it was Jesus telling me that. Even if it doesn't happen in September, my faith will not be shaken, I will wait on the Lord no matter how long it takes. 10 days ago

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mostly my Handlers in Dee Cee (and Moscow on occasion).

i get paid on the number of posts i make here, the quality of them, and how many views they get.


that is an Odd question Helix, why do you inquire?

thanks.



blessings. Zero days.

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Because probably nine times out of ten these days, you're talking to someone who is on a smart phone, and land lines aren't super private anyway.
 
i like it when it goes off the hook, give me more time to spread my Messages on this forum and hopefully Save the Planet.

all i need to do is answer The Red Phone 2 times daily am and pm, when my handlers call me with what to publish here.

also have a flip phone in the car, but only need that when on Secret Infiltration assignments; some of them outside the country and require 'Burner Phones'.

and yes Chock, if you get into the business, become a Double Agent which gets you paid twice. just juggle yur schedule a little bit.

i talk to one set of Handlers in the morning and the other only at night; can't screw that up. wear dark glasses and a Trench Coat..........just look the part.


blessings. Zero days.


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You've been a little out there on things, but now you're just off the hook!🤣
 
Because probably nine times out of ten these days, you're talking to someone who is on a smart phone, and land lines aren't super private anyway.

probably.

but everything is Encrypted both ends.


other days we meet in the Park or where they tell me to go for a Pick Up. we exchange Black brief cases.


Helix, we neeeeed more agents, we prolly pay much better than this DP gig you are running.


1755376297492.webp...a quick exchange of attache cases and you are all done for the week. inside is yur pay check too.


blessings. Zero days.

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You've been a little out there on things, but now you're just off the hook!🤣

heh heh.

just having fun today; it kinda goes along with the subject material, so imagination can be good.

but yeah, i do use a desk top wired into the wall phone, all it does is talk. if i need a computer, then there is one sitting on the desk; don't need a phone to get on the internet and i like a Big Screen.


blessings all, watch September; Crystal says that we may be gone in September.


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