You mean, Do the ends justify the means?
It's effective if your metric is: does it continue the killing of the republic he started in 2016?
Well, no. Natch.hehe... I get your point, but the metric I'm looking at is whether this chills out LA and prevents future unrest in other cities.
A lot of reporting has suggested that the same footage is being used over and over again to create the perception of a much bigger event than is actually happening. Given that both the mayor and the governor have both said they do not require this "help", that it is only making the situation more volatile, it would appear that while an "easy" solution may not be available, this particular "solution" is going to make things worse. Are there not opportunities to change the methodology of ICE to where they are not looked at as storm troopers? I'm sure narratives can be exaggerated, but if there's nothing to build the narrative off of in the first place, doesn't that limit the possibility of exaggeration?
Or was this response to the "mass deportation" goal inevitable, given how interwoven illegal immigrants are into America's fabric, no matter how it was carried out?
He's handling it exactly the way he wants it handled.A simple poll, to capture a moment in time.
The question is not whether it's good or bad, sane or insane, lawful or unlawful, only whether or not Trump's response to what's happening in LA right now is the most effective response.
My personal opinion is that this is not an effective response, but rather serves to reinforce the concerns around incompetent tyranny, and pretty much guarantees escalation. Furthermore, it gives his detractors more ammunition the further it escalates.
What do you guys think?
Martial law in Ca won't be effective in NY or ill.The whole point of bringing in the Marines is to escalate the tension. Eventually, it will reach critical mass, something will spark a violent clash, and that will be used to implement martial law. From that point, public protests will be outlawed and dealt with severely.
Other. The use of military/NG to protect federal buildings, from ‘mostly peaceful’ protestors, frees up state/local LEOs to deal with crime in other places. IIRC, those objecting loudest to this situation called for the use of military/NG to protect the US Capitol on 1/6/2021.
Burning looting and pilaging is not a protest. The NG is there to quell a riot. The Marines are there to protect Federal assets. The one thing that may be happening but should if not is ICE ahould be making referals to DOJ to arrest and prosecute CEOs who employ foriegn nationals here illegally.A simple poll, to capture a moment in time.
The question is not whether it's good or bad, sane or insane, lawful or unlawful, only whether or not Trump's response to what's happening in LA right now is the most effective response.
My personal opinion is that this is not an effective response, but rather serves to reinforce the concerns around incompetent tyranny, and pretty much guarantees escalation. Furthermore, it gives his detractors more ammunition the further it escalates.
What do you guys think?
Is the goal to militarize the entire country?Other.
To date, federal actions have not focused on "handling LA". They've focused on protecting federal infrastructure and personnel and that has been very effective. The rioters have pretty much moved away from the federal buildings.
Further action WILL focus on "LA", but that is being dealt with mostly by CA law enforcement...albeit, very badly. CA law enforcement is getting their asses kick, but that will change when more federal troops come online to help deal with the violent protesters who are disrupting the city, burning and looting.
Who called for the NG on J6?Other. The use of military/NG to protect federal buildings, from ‘mostly peaceful’ protestors, frees up state/local LEOs to deal with crime in other places. IIRC, those objecting loudest to this situation called for the use of military/NG to protect the US Capitol on 1/6/2021.
That (bolded above) should have been expected in ‘sanctuary’ states/cities. After all, ‘sanctuary’ states/cities were (largely) allowed to ignore (supersede?) enforcement of federal ‘recreational drug’ ban laws.
Burning looting and pilaging is not a protest. The NG is there to quell a riot. The Marines are there to protect Federal assets. The one thing that may be happening but should if not is ICE ahould be making referals to DOJ to arrest and prosecute CEOs who employ foriegn nationals here illegally.
Gavin Newsome is the Jefferson Davis of these times providing cover to Democrat brownshirts funded and mobilized.
This is all unnecessary
He's handling it exactly the way he wants it handled.
He's got military doing his work. He's in the news. He's showing his power. That is what he wants. And he's winning the show and tell.
The dems are not capable of countering trump in the public sphere.
Congress doesn't think so.You forgot the choice:
- No, because it's ****ing illegal.
Stopping the unrest isn't the goal. More unrest is the goal. IMO.Do you think it's effective though? Like, is this going to work to stop the unrest?
#2 is the entire goal.1. Are National Guard needed to quell the protests in LA? Dunno. Time will tell.
2. Is Trump behaving like a childish, pompous jackass with his public comments and bloviating? Yes. Absolutely.
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Who's the leader of the organized protests? How did the leader of the organized protests know about the raids before they happened?Again, I don't know what a good response looks like but these are not protests. This is organized violence, destruction of property and looting and is fast on its way to 1992. Obviously, the state powers that be are not able or willing to quell these riots. I feel sorry for people who live in California.
If this was to be expected, why would the government choose to employ immflamatory methodologies?
Trump is a savvy marketer, always has been. Why choose the path of most resistence, when better optics could have made this go smoother? Does this not make for a less efficient approach?
So, this is a State's right's issue?The US would be ‘doomed’ if (when?) states/cities decided that enforcement of certain federal laws shouldn’t occur within their borders.
It didn’t take a loon like Newsom long to decide that CA residents should be exempt from paying FIT if their ‘sanctuary’ status from federal immigration law enforcement wasn’t respected.
10 yrs? trump has been president for almost 1/2 of those 10 yrs. And encouraged protests, that turned to riot, after losing one of the elections.Lol. Where have you been the last 10yrs?
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