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Is this healthy or not ? [W:253]

Is this healthy or not ?


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Most people know enough to brush their teeth. fail

I am not claiming that the report is true. You asked a question and I tried to answer it. No need for the belligerence. Lighten up.
 
has science said an apple is not good for you?

Science only says that an apple for sure is not very good for you if you dont eat the skin.

If you eat the skin it might be.


Note: apples is one of those things that bothers me, during the time I was raising my kids the food minders were all "Dont give them kool-aid with all that sugar, apple juice is much better for them".

Be a good parent , give your kids apple juice!
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Science only says that an apple for sure is not very good for you if you dont eat the skin.

If you eat the skin it might be.


Note: apples is one of those things that bothers me, during the time I was raising my kids the food minders were all "Dont give them kool-aid with all that sugar, apple juice is much better for them".

Be a good parent , give your kids apple juice!
:bs

again, processed apple juice is not the same as feeding someone an apple. Our education system is terribly inadequate in the US.
 
again, processed apple juice is not the same as feeding someone an apple. Our education system is terribly inadequate in the US.

Again, I have no particular reason to believe that the minders are more right about eating whole apples than they were about apple juice. For well over a decade parents fed their kids Capri-Sun juice pouches by the case because it was much better for our kids than is the kool-aid I grew up on, we were informed. Listening to the ones who were trying to "educate" us parents got us no where.
 
Like what?

you might want to do some googling on how your body processes certain chemicals contained in deli meat

this took .5 seconds to find: A new statement from a World Health Organization research agency classified processed meat — including bacon, hot dogs and lunch meats like salami — as carcinogenic. It also found that eating 50 grams daily increases the risk of colorectal cancer by 18 per cent.
 
I live in Europe. I've never visited the States. How much meat does the typical American diet include?

Varies wildly... With economics and ethnicity taking part in deciding what makes for a meal.

I was raised by parents form the mid-west. If there wasn't dead critter on the table it wasn't a real meal.

On the other hand I have gone a couple of days with not meat. Chinese neighbors had meat once or twice a week.
 
Varies wildly... With economics and ethnicity taking part in deciding what makes for a meal.

I was raised by parents form the mid-west. If there wasn't dead critter on the table it wasn't a real meal.

On the other hand I have gone a couple of days with not meat. Chinese neighbors had meat once or twice a week.

So there is no typical diet. It's the same where I live.
 
you might want to do some googling on how your body processes certain chemicals contained in deli meat

this took .5 seconds to find: A new statement from a World Health Organization research agency classified processed meat — including bacon, hot dogs and lunch meats like salami — as carcinogenic. It also found that eating 50 grams daily increases the risk of colorectal cancer by 18 per cent.
World Health Organization Says Processed Meat Causes Cancer

Overall, the lifetime risk of someone developing colon cancer is 5%. To put the numbers into perspective, the increased risk from eating the amount of processed meat in the study would raise average lifetime risk to almost 6%.

I believe that this is the same source you used. So, from 5% to almost 6%. That sounds fine to me.
 
not true. also a lot of vitamins and fiber in fruit.

Way more in veggies, including the anthocyanin group.

Veggies are just better as far as nutrition is concerned. Fruits are mostly water and sugar whereas veggies are low in sugar for the most part.
 
World Health Organization Says Processed Meat Causes Cancer

Overall, the lifetime risk of someone developing colon cancer is 5%. To put the numbers into perspective, the increased risk from eating the amount of processed meat in the study would raise average lifetime risk to almost 6%.

I believe that this is the same source you used. So, from 5% to almost 6%. That sounds fine to me.

well it's all about what we are willing to risk

the percentage may seem low but as you go through life you will increasingly see it doesn't mean much if you are in the minority

but life's for living, chose your poison. :peace
 
Varies wildly... With economics and ethnicity taking part in deciding what makes for a meal.

I was raised by parents form the mid-west. If there wasn't dead critter on the table it wasn't a real meal.

On the other hand I have gone a couple of days with not meat. Chinese neighbors had meat once or twice a week.

yep. the chinese and the greeks know the balance
 
well it's all about what we are willing to risk

the percentage may seem low but as you go through life you will increasingly see it doesn't mean much if you are in the minority

but life's for living, chose your poison. :peace

I ride motorcycles. I also do most the maintenance on mine.

I not only own guns but reload my own ammo.

I worked professionally with explosives for 20 years.

I'll take the meat and the <1% increase...

But that is just me.
 

Good. It's an individual thing. Not all Chinese and Greeks know the balance. One cannot generalize in these matters. I've met some fat Greeks and Chinese in my time.
 
Way more in veggies, including the anthocyanin group.

Veggies are just better as far as nutrition is concerned. Fruits are mostly water and sugar whereas veggies are low in sugar for the most part.

Right, and until the food minders act like they understand this they deserve to get ignored. Fruit is fine to satisfy a sweet tooth or as the sweet at the end of a meal, but dont to try to sell me a false equivalence of fruits and vegetables unless you are ready to get an earful from me. This tripe paints the speaker as an idiot or a liar.

Right now I am drinking a watermelon mojito....very tasty, but I am not going to fool myself into believing that my sugary cocktail is good for me because it has fresh fruit in it.

I'll take my reality with the bark on tyvm.
 
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I ride motorcycles. I also do most the maintenance on mine.

I not only own guns but reload my own ammo.

I worked professionally with explosives for 20 years.

I'll take the meat and the <1% increase...

But that is just me.

absolutely, go for it

I on the other hand don't own a gun, never have, never will, and choose to live in a place where no one else does either

I know my neighbours and they know me, I don't fear them and they don't fear me

we eat meat but in moderation...do we eat deli meat? maybe three times a year tops

tonight I am grilling small steaks with a rice, and lots and lots of veggies

we are lean and prefer it that way we swim, we walk, we work out, we drink protein shakes and we juice...

my guy is 67 and just signed up for the Boston marathon for the fourth time

will we live longer than others who choose poor diets....I don't know and I don't care...

I choose to make this particular stay on earth as healthy and comfortable as possible...

it's all about choice

cheers
 
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