kaya'08
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A Roman Catholic adoption charity's appeal to be allowed to discriminate against gay people wanting it to place children with them has been rejected.
Catholic Care wanted exemption from new anti-discrimination laws so it could limit services provided to homosexual couples on religious grounds.
The Charity Commission said gay people were suitable parents and religious views did not justify discrimination.
BBC News - Catholic charity's appeal over gay adoption fails
I would personally love to hear what you guys have to say.
Hold on, the question posted in the poll and the one in the thread title are not quite the same and is quite misleading... I could a moderator please clarity this and remove my vote because I voted based on the question in the thread title.
I think it is dead wrong for the Catholic charity to be forced to go against a very important religious principle to them. They have freedom of religion too. I am sure if it were an Islamic charity, the libs would defend their right to "discriminate" but since it is a Christian group... we can't have that... Sickening...
I'm sorry, have i missed something? The thread title is: is this case of forcing values that goes against religion wrong?
The polls asks if its right to do so; yes or no, or other.
The more important question to me is why we leave adoption services in the hands of churches in the first place, when such a thing cuts across all religious lines.
The more important question to me is why we leave adoption services in the hands of churches in the first place, when such a thing cuts across all religious lines.
I didn't think it was clear.... that is "this"? Is it what happened to the Catholic Church or is it referring to the thread title... if the former, my vote would be no, if the later, it would be yes...
OK the link was taking too long to load, but I think I know what this one is about.
A Catholic Church that has been doing adoptions forever, now has to stop because their faith doesn't allow for them to adopt to gays. Right?
Well that's sad IMO. They will have to give up the orphanage just because the goverment won't allow them to practice their religion. Charity work like this is what churches do. Now I guess the government will have to take tax payer money and build one and hire people or else just not have a place for the children to go.
To keep from discriminating against gays they have to discriminate against the church. I hope they can settle this for the sake of the orphans.
I will report my post and get it changed, sorry for the inconvenience guys.
It is a tad misleading, as in not as clear as it could be. Had to reread it a few times to understand exactly what the OP wanted.
Yes government can enforce rules on religious organisations. Religious organisations do not dictate the law, and can not pick and choose what laws they want to follow and not. Society as a whole has dictated that discrimination based on ones sexuality is illegal and hence religious organisations have to follow said rules even if it clashes with their religious dogma. If they dont like it, then dont get involved in areas where they can come in conflict with the law. Religious freedom does not extend to open discrimination against people based on sexual orientation, religion, sex or race. All it does, is expose how outdated and backwards said religion is.
This.
I wonder what this agency does with it's gay kids? Do they not let them in the program? It's run by a church, but it's a secular function. I'm all for a church not letting people in on their religious activities if they choose so. But this is a little more complicated.
The commission found that:
* It was beneficial to children waiting to be adopted to have as wide a pool of prospective parents as possible.
* Discrimination on the ground of sexual orientation was serious as it departed from the principle of treating people equally.
* Even if Catholic Care closed, children would still be placed into adoptive care by other means.
* Local authority officials found gay couples were often suitable prospective parents for 'hard to place children'.
* Respect for religious views was not a justification for discriminating against gays, because of the essentially public nature of adoption services.
I will report my post and get it changed, sorry for the inconvenience guys.
I don't think there making them stop. There just saying that they can't deny adoption to gay people.
But then they will have to stop or find some accomodation because of the church's stance against homosexuality. The biggest losers are the kids and potential adoptive parents...
A Roman Catholic adoption charity's appeal to be allowed to discriminate against gay people wanting it to place children with them has been rejected.
Catholic Care wanted exemption from new anti-discrimination laws so it could limit services provided to homosexual couples on religious grounds.
The Charity Commission said gay people were suitable parents and religious views did not justify discrimination.
BBC News - Catholic charity's appeal over gay adoption fails
I would personally love to hear what you guys have to say.
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