Yes, for now.
But people are being forced from their jobs or forced to sell their business for expressing their beliefs isnt right.
For me to go organize a whole group or mob to demand that a person be fired, or threaten his advertisers or customers or suppliers, for no other reason than I don't like an opinion the person expressed that had absolutely nothing to do with me personally is something quite different.
A politically correct society deserves extinction.
Whatever happened to "sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me"?
That's a myth peddled by parents to numb their children from vocalized ignorance.
Oh please, political correctness has gone awry.
A politically correct society deserves extinction.
Name an institution with positive intentions that hasn't.
One obvious example of an institution that everyone loves to hate is HOA's. They're control-obsessed as hell and make idiotic rules like which color mailbox you can have, but people who've just dropped a cool mill on their new home are probably happy there's a rule in place that prevents their neighbor from deciding to put his old car on cinder blocks in the front lawn.
Point is, you search high and far enough you're going to get your anecdotes of people abusing a good thing.
Vote and be heard.
It's out of control. People are offended by every little thing is what I mean and will take advantage of the "feel sorry for me" groups. If people didn't make such a big deal out of such things, then they wouldn't be such problems. :mrgreen:
Society has always had downsides to rules of etiquette run amok, such as the fabled constrictive rules of 19th Century Victorian England that make for so many awful forbidden love stories. Society evolves new mores, life goes on. In twenty years we'll have new polite norms and we'll be bitching about those. But while we've created a fancy new term for it ("political correctness") let's not pretend that it's anything new, or that rules for polite society will never exist.
Besides, there will always be places where you can speak your mind with impunity. Like DP, for example.
Of course, I haven't been alive that long to know about any 19th Century Victorian England, but I can say that it seems like since I was a kid, things have changed drastically in regards to political correctness. It's ridiculous.
I know these aren't typical, but they are some good examples of just how stupid this things can become. :lol:
10 Ridiculous Cases of Political Correctness - Listverse
May I assume that link goes to a list of examples of the rules of polite society run amok?
Sure it's quite different, but I'm also quite sure that organizing is actually specifically covered by the Bill of Rights. If one insulted customer is able to garner enough support from the community, and actually enact some change based upon his/ her belief. . . I'd just call that the free market.
My point, however, is not what is 'legal' to do. My point is what is honorable and ethical to do, what SHOULD be illegal to do for a people who values individual liberty over all other unalienable rights. We aren't talking about somebody who is violating anybody else's rights or is doing something detrimental or harmful for the community. We are talking about a person being able to think thoughts, hold opinions, believe what he believes without being physically and/or materially attacked for no other offense than that.
That's kind of a good point. I'm not sure how I feel about someone's life and/or livelihood being destroyed over political correctness. But at the same time, that same sentiment holds true for both sides. Just as the business owner shouldn't be persecuted for his opinions, consumers are allowed to have their own opinions and choose to do business elsewhere, so the hurt is going to be inevitable because of our freedoms, so I guess PC is kind of a way of society regulating itself. I do agree that there are many instances where things are just grossly exaggerated and stupid though.
It's out of control. People are offended by every little thing is what I mean and will take advantage of the "feel sorry for me" groups. If people didn't make such a big deal out of such things, then they wouldn't be such problems. :mrgreen:
My point, however, is not what is 'legal' to do. My point is what is honorable and ethical to do, what SHOULD be illegal to do for a people who values individual liberty over all other unalienable rights. We aren't talking about somebody who is violating anybody else's rights or is doing something detrimental or harmful for the community. We are talking about a person being able to think thoughts, hold opinions, believe what he believes without being physically and/or materially attacked for no other offense than that.
Unless there is a clear agreement within the social contract--conditions of a business license for instance--no business person should be forced to do business with or provide services for somebody or something that they believe to be morally or ethically wrong. And nobody should be forced to do business with that business owner for any reason.
Unless we are all free to be who and what we are, short of violating anybody else's rights, there is no liberty at all and none of us have any rights at all.
If you've ever read George Washington's list...almost everything in it could be considered political correctness for his day.
George Washington's Rules of Civility and Decent Behavior @ Foundations Magazine
This is all very true, which is why I don't see where you have a problem with customers organizing and boycotting a business. Sure, in many cases this might destroy a business or a persons career, but doesn't that fit with the claim you've made above.
Those customers have the right to boycott that business as much as the business has the right to boycott the customers, unfortunately as is often the case, the business dies first. Especially in a business providing non-essential items (i.e. wedding cakes).
Thing is, everyone does have the right to be who and what they are, but there can be consequences within the realm of free speech/ expression.
It almost invariably comes down to the principles of darwin and/ or the free market.
Why? If I say I support traditional marriage or I am pro life or I am pro choice or I am Atheist or I am an alien from Mars, but I am violating nobody else's rights and I am not forcing my opinions or belief upon anybody; what gives you a RIGHT to organize a boycott and damage my business because you don't like my point of view?
How is that not a restraint of my legal trade? A violation of my person and right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness? How is that not a violation of my unalienable rights to be who and what I am?
And if you are convinced that such boycotts are the American way then is it okay to organize a boycott against the minority owned business? The women owned business? The gay guy who opens up a shop? The person who speaks out in favor of political correctness? Where do you draw the line? Or do you?
(For the record I think trying to intentionally hurt somebody's livelihood or drive a person out for such reasons is entirely immoral, should be culturally taboo, and should be illegal.)
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