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Is the war on terror a new religious crusade?

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Realistically our enemies in Iraq are insurgent Arabs, not Sunni, Shiite, or al qaeda, so why does the media and political pundits keep referring to Arabs, by their religions? If you saw a S, S or Q on the streets of Baghdad, you couldn't tell who or what he was.

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Realistically our enemies in Iraq are insurgent Arabs, not Sunni, Shiite, or al qaeda, so why does the media and political pundits keep referring to Arabs, by their religions? If you saw a S, S or Q on the streets of Baghdad, you couldn't tell who or what he was.

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I would wager that distinctions are made between Sunni/Shia etc because of the political dynamics that the groups create within the Middle East.
 

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I would wager that distinctions are made between Sunni/Shia etc because of the political dynamics that the groups create within the Middle East.
That might be true if the Sunni and Shia weren't bitter enemies. Up until the last two years, before the surge and al qaedas mysterious appearance. there was only IEDs and individual Sunni suicide bombers concentrating on Shia gathering places... At least, that was what the media reported during that time.

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That might be true if the Sunni and Shia weren't bitter enemies. Up until the last two years, before the surge and al qaedas mysterious appearance. there was only IEDs and individual Sunni suicide bombers concentrating on Shia gathering places... At least, that was what the media reported during that time.

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that might be true if the sunni and the shia were bitter enemies. in fact, in Iraq the Shia fought loyally for the nation in the Iraq/Iran war, most families have sunni and shia branches, and al-qaeda had to work hard to foment what 'civil war' there was. you don't have to foment something that already exists; nationalism is a stronger force in the region that most give it credit for. Iran has a long history of working with Sunni terrorist groups, and visa versa.
 

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that might be true if the sunni and the shia were bitter enemies. in fact, in Iraq the Shia fought loyally for the nation in the Iraq/Iran war, most families have sunni and shia branches, and al-qaeda had to work hard to foment what 'civil war' there was. you don't have to foment something that already exists; nationalism is a stronger force in the region that most give it credit for. Iran has a long history of working with Sunni terrorist groups, and visa versa.
That doesn't explain why only Shia gathering places were bombed during that five year stretch. It's the media's version, not mine.

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thats the way the arabs see it
 

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Maybe the ones who are seeking revenge, but not the other 99 percent who have to scratch for a living.

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the other 99 percent love all those bombs
 
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