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Is Swine Flu the Real Threat?

I think everyone freaked out about swine flu. I understand that it affects your health in a bad way, and I'm not saying I'm against people being cautious, by going to the doctor when you're not well, but you're more likely to die from a car accident then getting swine flu, and people still go on with driving cars. Why should people change how they are now that there's swine flu?
 
As the clouds of confusion and over hype begin to lift I am beginning to see a response to it all from the media I overlooked until now. It's the; HEY! It's not our fault we were just reporting what the CDC and WHO were putting out. And they are doing it with a straight face. Never mind that they talked it up a zillion times an hour every hour in some cases and added a lot of their own hyperbole until panic took hold in a lot of areas. Schools closed people missed work in order to stay home and watch the kids and so on. The manufacturers of dust/paint and surgical masks I'm sure are okay with results up to now.
If as has been suggested this was in part a test to observe the effects and response to a threatened PANDEMIC I hope they learned all they needed to and the next time they can be responsibly concerned rather than scaring the heck out of millions for no good reason.


Well, they said we'd have a black president when pigs fly; and whaddya know-- we got one, and swine flu! (flew)

However there are steps to avoid contracting this deadly ailment:

1. Wash your hands regularly.

2. Use a handkerchief when touching public surfaces such as door-handles.

3. Don't drink from wells containing ground-water infested with pig-feces, such as those common in Mexico.

If you follow these tips, you can avoid contracting Swine Flu-- just like avoiding bird-flu, but with pigs instead of chickens.
 
This is just another in a long line of government proclaimations that are results of knee-jerk reactions and do nothing of any consequence other than scare the population. Swine flu, TARP, the stimulous plan, bailouts, the Obama budget, bird flu, AIDS and on and on. There's no time to think, only react.

Yet when there is time to think and plan, like Katrina or the auto industry or bank solvency, the government sits with its thumb up its ass and does nothing until we'l in the middle of a real full-blown catastrophe. Then, instead of the action that is really needed in the emergency, they spend their time posturing, bloviating and trying to make sure that anyone is to blame as long as it isn't them. Meanwhile, Rome burns and the taxpayers get soaked in the firefight.

Well said... It seems that everything is about ratcheting up the fear factor in everyone. If it's not a hurricane, threats of terrorist attack, financial crisis, a flu that will kill everyone on earth if they don't take the vaccine, or alquaida under every stone.... then we could figure out real action plans to these problems

It's time to throw all the bums out. Only there are too many voters out there who are far more interested in watching reruns of Gilligan's Island than learning about what's really going on their country. Sad.

Throwing them out is one step.... in many instances that is not enough, and criminal charges may be in order (especially when it comes to the federal reserve)
 
I couldn't find the other swine flu thread.... but what are the experts saying ??

As Swine Flu Spreads, Conspiracy Theories of Laboratory Origins Abound by Mike Adams the Health Ranger
Is there any hard evidence of laboratory origins?
As of this moment, I have not personally seen any conclusive evidence of laboratory origins for this H1N1 swine flu. I am open to the possibility that new evidence may emerge in this direction, however, and I am suspicious of the genetic makeup of the virus as one possible indicator of its origins.

I am not a medical specialist in the area of infectious disease, but I have studied microbiology, genetics and a considerable amount of material on pandemics. What seems suspicious to me is the hybrid origin of the viral fragments found in H1N1 influenza. According to reports in the mainstream media (which has no reason to lie about this particular detail), this strain of influenza contains viral code fragments from:

• Human influenza
• Bird Flu from North America
• Swine flu from Europe
• Swine flu from Asia

This is rather astonishing to realize, because for this to have been a natural combination of viral fragments, it means an infected bird from North America would have had to infect pigs in Europe, then be re-infected by those some pigs with an unlikely cross-species mutation that allowed the bird to carry it again, then that bird would have had to fly to Asia and infected pigs there, and those Asian pigs then mutated the virus once again (while preserving the European swine and bird flu elements) to become human transmittable, and then a human would have had to catch that virus from the Asian pigs -- in Mexico! -- and spread it to others. (This isn't the only explanation of how it could have happened, but it is one scenario that gives you an idea of the complexity of such a thing happening).

Did the swine flu evolve in a lab? | Swine Flu | News | Edmonton Sun
"There is not enough scientific evidence to build this reasoning,” Capua said. “This virus could have generated itself by many ways: In swine or in another host or God or laboratory manipulation or whatever. But we just cannot say.”

In other words, it is highly suspicious, but cannot be proven.
 
604. The death in Mexico is not caused by flu (5/14/09)

The unusual symptom of the flu my wife caught was a severe cough. I had never seen her coughed so badly before. My wife also brought a big box of flu medicine from her China trip. It was a traditional Chinese medicine that was very effective to prevent a flu. So I took some pills. It didn't help me to prevent a flu. I started to cough too. So my wife gave me a bottle of Robitussin. After taking several dose, my cough became worse. I had similar bad cough about three years ago. Here is the description: "There was a severe cough after I ate the meat bought there. The cough was so strong that I couldn't sleep for nights. It lasted several weeks. The poison might be some kind of radiation material (isotope). I had suffered such kind of poisoning before but none was so severe like this one." (422. Poison food and Indian market (7/20/06))

Of course, I stopped to take the medicine. I was afraid it was poisoned. On 4/13, my wife went back to work. The next days she brought home some cookies. I noticed that we all coughed after eating the cookies. I started to realize it was not the flu but the poisoned food that caused the coughing.

I think
1. Feds planed a murder under the cover up of Flu. The poison (I allege it is a kind of isotope) will cause a severe cough. Heavy doze will swollen the lung that leads to the de-function of breath. Feds spread it with flu virus because the flu symptoms will cover up the severe cough caused by poison.

2. Feds may have contaminated the public place (such like restaurant, hospital or bus) with the poison. People may get sick when they having food with their contaminated hand. That's why the media emphasized on washing hand.

3. There is a mystery puzzled experts that why reported deaths have occurred only in Mexico and the confirmed cases elsewhere are mild. I don't believe H1N1 only select Mexicans to kill. It only proves H1N1 is a common flu, easy to spread but generally mild. In this case, it is used to cover up the poison. So when it went to elsewhere, it is mild.

The death mainly took place in Mexico because it's a convenient place picked up for the special operation. La Gloria is the town thought to be the source of the Swine Flu. Quote, "The village has many immigrants in the U.S.. Mexican epidemiologists say one theory is that someone who had been in the U.S. brought the virus back to the community." (Mercury News, 4/29)

This someone is the special operative(s) who poisoned the route he (they) went, to create a panic for the 4/8 case.

4. Quote, "New flu cases leveling off, Mexico says
By Paul Haven and Nico Price
Associated Press
Friday, May 1, 2009

The health ministry, which earlier said 168 people were believed killed by swine flu in Mexico, on Thursday would only confirm 12 of those deaths and would not say how many were suspected."

Can you interpret this news? It means 168 people died in similar cause. Only 12 found positive with H1N1 virus. (Even though, they were not necessarily died of H1N1) So the cause of the 168 deaths is something else. Now you can imagine what is it.

605. Swine Flu time table (5/20/09)

There were two attempts for bio-attack in April. One was the original 4/8 plot. It was a big plan consisted of a bio attack, a terror attack (marked with 4/8 "terror crack down in England) and the Iran war(marked with rocket launch of N.Korea, dated 4/4 to 4/8).

Here is the time table for the first bio-attack attempt which was in the name of bird-flu pandemic.
Three big powers involved.

2/26 A news of "New Human Death from Bird Flu" from Beijing China justified the coming "global pandemic". (see #596.)

3/19 There was an exercise for responding a bio-attack in Bay-area. (see #594)

3/20 I wrote "594. Framed case in March and April (3/20/09)", said, my wife "would have a two weeks trip to Beijing on 3/24",(which implied her return date was 4/8) "To divert the public attention, they will create a big event to distract. It most likely will be a bio-attack this time."

3/30 I wrote "596. Bio-attack in the name of pandemic (3/30/09)", repeated that "The unusual outbreak of avian flu in China likely is a plot to justify a planed bio-attack activated by the Feds - in the name of pandemic avian flu."

4/5 I wrote "597. Rocket launch and worm Conficker (4/5/09)", said that "The planed action date of this March and April plot will be around 4/4 to 4/8, when N. Korea will launch a ballistic missile which is coincidence with the return date of my wife from her China trip."

4/1 Maria Gutierrez fell ill.
About same time, my wife caught a flu in her China trip. (see # 603)

4/8 My wife returned home, severely sickened with a bad cough.
4/9 Maria Gutierrez's situation got worse, went to hospital.
4/13 Maria Gutierrez died in hospital.
4/15 Early morning, a young Chinese woman suddenly died in a train that crossed Siberia Russia.
There was a swift response from Russia. Train stopped. The station Quarantined. The
passengers isolated. Russia doctor said she died of SARS.
4/15 Morning, the mainstream media of Russian, multiple press, newspaper and national
television made a strengthening report on this news, caused nation wide public attention.
4/15 Night, Russia media changed the tone, said the patient might die to the Hand, Mouth and Foot
disease.
4/15 The Minister of Food and Health Department of Hongkong, announced to lower the grade of
response to Avian Flu - from severe class to alert class.
4/18 Russia media reported that the woman's death was caused by ordinary pneumonia.

I think Feds failed to get me into a disease of "bad flu" - I refused food and medicine arranged for me. The lowering grade of the response to Avian Flu in Hongkong on 4/15 may indict Feds formerly abandoned their original plot of a bio attack in the name of bird flu. Because I had predicted that attack. Russia even didn't refer the case to flu but call it SARS. If Feds was successful in 4/8 plot, my wife would have died like the other two women at the time between 4/13 to 4/15.

Then on 4/24, Feds had another attempt to push up a pandemic. To avoid the name of "bird flu", they picked up a new virus from their bio-weapon warehouse. It has a bits of genetic material from swine flu, avian flu and human flu. Of course, there was a consideration of the name. Human flu is too common that won't scare people. Bird Flu fits the demand but that will fall into my prediction. So they call it Swine Flu. Mysterious enough to intimidate public. It apparently was a propaganda name not a scientific one. Several days later, they have to change it into H1N1 A. H1N1 basically represent human flu.

Why I say it's another attempt? Because in following days when Swine Flu had been hot topic in media, N. Korea came again.

Quote, "N.Korea makes another missile threat

By Jae-Soon Chang 4/30/09
A.P.

Seoul, S. Korea - N. Korea warned Wednesday it will fire an intercontinental ballistic missile - or even carry out another nuclear test - unless the U.N. apologizes for condemning the regime's April 4 rocket launch. "

It is a pity to abandon that original plan which has been prepared for months. And the war on Iran is an urgent demand.

(I was again blocked to post in internet for two weeks. Feds must have planed another big plot these days. 6/3)
 
Apocalypse Not: Behind the Swine Flu Hysteria

Apocalypse Not: Behind the Swine Flu Hysteria
Just as I thought at the outset.

At the height of the swine flu pandemic this spring, when the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention was recommending that schools with cases of H1N1 be closed for 14 days and Mexico was still on lockdown, the epidemiology community already suspected the world wasn't ending. Why? The numbers came in: case fatality rate (how many infected people are dying) and replication rate (how many others an infected person will transmit the illness to — "R-zero," in disease-speak). H1N1 had an RØ of about 1.3, high enough to spread the virus but low enough that a strong isolation program could break its back. Its case fatality rate was a wussy 1.9 percent in Mexico and 0.1 percent worldwide. By comparison, the 1918 Spanish flu had an RØ of 2.7 and a case fatality rate of up to 5 percent, making it far more deadly. A real apocalypse, like the killer flu in The Stand — Stephen King's opus of epidemiologic eschatology — would be off the chart, with an RØ of 5 to 6 and a case fatality rate of 99 percent. So, don't panic ... unless H1N1 surges this fall. Where did we leave that hand sanitizer, again?
 
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