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Do you believe that the partisan discourse divides people more than it should?
Vote yes if you believe that the partisan discourse is framed in a way that prevents solutions to conflicts that could be resolved if they were approached differently, or if you feel that politics is used more to distract people from the real problems than to solve problems.
Vote no if you think that the issues are framed in a way that promotes solutions and encourages mutual understanding and respect, or if you feel that the partisan discourse tries too hard to get people to agree on the issues.
Apparently you forgot to add the poll. I have no doubt that today partisan discourse is indeed framed in a way as to prevent solutions. I also agree, that some issues are used to distract the voters from other issues that can be more harmful to this nation that the hot button issue being discussed.
I think you only have to look at the senate. Both Reid and McConnell are too busy being partisan Republicans and Democrats than being an American. Both in my opinion put their party way above country. This leaves me longing to the days of a Mansfield and Dirksen, a George Mitchell and Bob Dole or even Daschle and Lott. All of the a fore mentioned could work together for the good of the country. They could give and take, compromise to get things done. Sure all of them could dig in their heels depending on the issue, but for the most part, each would concede some to get some.
It seems all too often with Reid and McConnell, they want it all, all of the time. The my way or the highway. If Reid is for something McConnell is automatically against it and vice versa. I swear, at times it seems both of these two gentlemen would rather see this country go down in flames than to give one inch.
End of Soapbox.
You still think the US is a functional country..............2wave..........................Hi......................
You still think the US is a functional country..............2wave..........................Hi......................
Do you believe that the partisan discourse divides people more than it should?
Vote yes if you believe that the partisan discourse is framed in a way that prevents solutions to conflicts that could be resolved if they were approached differently, or if you feel that politics is used more to distract people from the real problems than to solve problems.
Vote no if you think that the issues are framed in a way that promotes solutions and encourages mutual understanding and respect, or if you feel that the partisan discourse tries too hard to get people to agree on the issues.
Partisan politics can be too divisive, obviously, but I also think differing points of view, and the willingness to stand up for what you believe is a good thing.
I see horrible partisanship on this forum. Enough to make a person go slightly nutty. One of our posters uses something similar to this as his Avatar.
I think I know why:
I know it's not cool any more to actually have affinity for this country but, while it's not perfect, I think it's still pretty awesome.
I think it's still as cool as it ever was to have an affinity for this country. I'm just acknowledging that I've gotten the "word" that I'm not a "real" American, so why would I have an "affinity" for it ? Why won't people grow up and deal with the consequences of their own deeds and actions ?.................
I think it's still as cool as it ever was to have an affinity for this country. I'm just acknowledging that I've gotten the "word" that I'm not a "real" American, so why would I have an "affinity" for it ? Why won't people grow up and deal with the consequences of their own deeds and actions ?.................
If I had a lot of money, and I wanted to disenfranchise people so that I could take control, I'd spend money encouraging people who are concerned about society to engage in the debate in a way that precluded the possibility of the issues being resolved.
Maybe I belong in the conspiracy theory section, but after some of my conversations here and on other forums, I think that some people are actually hired to come here and act like asshats so that reasonable people wont be able to have a conversation. I may be wrong, and those people could just be incredibly intolerant and disagreeable, but if they're not playing for the opposing team, they sure are scoring a lot of points for them.
I couldn't vote in the poll because there is no choice indicating that political discourse is not "framed", or if it is, it is not framed for the purposes listed in those two choices.
In a nation with 300+ million people, there is a wide diversity of opinion. If one finds the discourse limited, then I would suggest seeking wider for a greater variety of opinion and promoting novel ideas of ones own making.
Okay, ya' got me.
Why would I care if you have affinity for this country or not?
Why would I care if you have affinity for this country or not?
Ideally, maybe, you shouldn't. But then why would you have mentioned it in the first place ? You just want your cake and want to eat it too..........If you don't care about me, why in the world would you raise the idea of allegiance ? Most people who aren't wanted in a club don't , thereafter, show a concern for that club............................
I didn't bring up allegience, I just disagreed with your implication that the US isn't functional.
Probably because the benchmark of a good government is having as many people who are happy with it as practical without turning it into a flaky populist hell hole.
It's so dysfunctional it's funny......................Must suck for some people...................
The poll is asking a question with a binary response. If you think the partisan discourse divides people unnecessarily, vote yes. If you do not think the partisan discourse divides people unnecessarily, vote no.
By your response, I would infer that you do not think the partisan discourse is unnecessarily divisive, since you assert that it is not controlled in any way, and therefore faithfully represents the opinions of the entire populace. I wouldn't dare to speak for you, but I'm guessing that you would vote "No", based on that inference.
Thank you for your contribution.
I've changed my mind. Clearly the civil discourse isn't unnecessarily divisive at all!
You can't really change someone who's determined to be unhappy though.
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