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Is Obama due the same treatment as Bush?

Is Obama due the same treatment as Bush?


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We've listened to the hyper-partisans on the left rant, rave, lie and blame Bush for everything that goes wrong in this country. We've seen the hyper-partisans on the right defend Bush for indefensible actions taken by the administration. So now that Obama will soon be taking office, would it be fair for the hyper-partisans on the right and the left to change roles?
 
We've listened to the hyper-partisans on the left rant, rave, lie and blame Bush for everything that goes wrong in this country. We've seen the hyper-partisans on the right defend Bush for indefensible actions taken by the administration. So now that Obama will soon be taking office, would it be fair for the hyper-partisans on the right and the left to change roles?
If Obama deserves it, he will get it.

I guarantee it.
 
Because of the Bush exemplar and legacy, Obama will probably experience more scrutiny than any previous president once the initial honeymoon is over.
 
He'll get it whether he deserves it or not-- and, I might add, he would have gotten it regardless of whether Bush had received the same treatment or not. Is everyone's memory so short that they do not remember the Clinton years?

What remains to be seen is how well he bears up under the criticism, and how well he performs the duties of his office in the face of it.
 
Did Obama start and then **** up 2 wars yet? What about expand the role of government, has he done that yet? What about pass Patriot Act-like legislation? No? Mkay. Here's a very telling chart :

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As Bush's career goes on for more and more time, his approval records keep going down. The myth that we didn't give him a chance is just that. We did give him a chance. He just ****ed it up.
 
As Bush's career goes on for more and more time, his approval records keep going down. The myth that we didn't give him a chance is just that. We did give him a chance. He just ****ed it up.
Whether deserving or not, Obama will experience repercussions from the Bush tenure. I know I will be watching government more vigorously.
 
If Obama acts like a complete asshat like Bush has, then by all means he should receive the same treatment. It's not like Bush hasn't earned his hatred and disapproval, he's got what he deserves, based on what he's done.

Deal with it.
 
Was Clinton treated like Bush Sr.? Reagan?
 
We've listened to the hyper-partisans on the left rant, rave, lie and blame Bush for everything that goes wrong in this country. We've seen the hyper-partisans on the right defend Bush for indefensible actions taken by the administration. So now that Obama will soon be taking office, would it be fair for the hyper-partisans on the right and the left to change roles?
If Obama starts a pre-emptive war based on misleading intelligence, if he screws up FEMA, if he's in the pocket of Big Oil, if he destroys America's reputation around the world, if he tries to circumvent legislation through signing statements, if he orders government agencies to not enforce the law, if he tries to politicize the Justice Department, if he purposely tries to divide the country into us v. them then yeah, Obama should be **** on the same way Bush has been **** on, deservedly for the past 8 years.
 
He'll get it whether he deserves it or not-- and, I might add, he would have gotten it regardless of whether Bush had received the same treatment or not. Is everyone's memory so short that they do not remember the Clinton years?

What remains to be seen is how well he bears up under the criticism, and how well he performs the duties of his office in the face of it.
Or if he will handle it as well as Bill did.

Viva la Clinton!
 
Whether deserving or not, Obama will experience repercussions from the Bush tenure. I know I will be watching government more vigorously.
I know I have Bush to thank for my increased awareness of citizenry.
 
Only if he does something to deserve it, and it is a bit early to know if that will happen...
 
We've listened to the hyper-partisans on the left rant, rave, lie and blame Bush for everything that goes wrong in this country. We've seen the hyper-partisans on the right defend Bush for indefensible actions taken by the administration. So now that Obama will soon be taking office, would it be fair for the hyper-partisans on the right and the left to change roles?

To me Bush seemed to deserve most of it and most of it was honest. I don't think Obama will be as bad so I doubt there will as much honest attacks to be made.
 
We've listened to the hyper-partisans on the left rant, rave, lie and blame Bush for everything that goes wrong in this country. We've seen the hyper-partisans on the right defend Bush for indefensible actions taken by the administration. So now that Obama will soon be taking office, would it be fair for the hyper-partisans on the right and the left to change roles?
Obama should not only be scrutinized and challenged with the tough questions asked, but I think he will be held to higher expectations than any modern president ever was.
You claim that "hyper partisan" left have lied and blamed everything on Bush, care to elaborate on what?
 
Obama should not only be scrutinized and challenged with the tough questions asked, but I think he will be held to higher expectations than any modern president ever was.
You claim that "hyper partisan" left have lied and blamed everything on Bush, care to elaborate on what?

I know some moderates who have placed blame on Bush for certain things, but not for everything.
 
So now that Obama will soon be taking office, would it be fair for the hyper-partisans on the right and the left to change roles?

Yawn. Let me know when Obama starts a war based upon lies, doubles the national debt, has bin Laden trapped but loses him, dangerously overstretches the military, expands executive power in an unconstitutional manner, acts in a secretive manner (despite the people ... not for them), ignores various warnings about a plot to attack the US, lets his Vice President be more active in governing than he is, judges a man's character by the look in his eyes, doesn't veto a single bill while his party is in power, or starts uttering gibberish.
 
I know some moderates who have placed blame on Bush for certain things, but not for everything.
What I'm curious is whether the alleged "blames" are justified.
ie, he lied about Iraq
 
Whether deserving or not, Obama will experience repercussions from the Bush tenure. I know I will be watching government more vigorously.

Actually, I think that's one of the best things that Bush has done for this country. It reminded us that government need to checked. Same as with Nixon and Watergate. Served as a reminder to be weary of our leaders, and those in power.
 
every politician should be critically analyzed by the press every day

but we all know the overwhelming portion of the MSM is riding BHO's **** for the full distance
it is love at first site, and that will not change
 
Because of the Bush exemplar and legacy, Obama will probably experience more scrutiny than any previous president once the initial honeymoon is over.

I dunno. Clinton received an awful lot of scrutiny over blowjobs and whatnot.
 
I dunno. Clinton received an awful lot of scrutiny over blowjobs and whatnot.
the impeachment and scrutiny were actually about LYING
but i guess that is for another thread in which you will deny deny deny
 
the impeachment and scrutiny were actually about LYING
but i guess that is for another thread in which you will deny deny deny

Except that he never should've been under any obligation, in the first place, to tell the world on national television about what specific sex acts he engages in, with whom, where, when, and under what circumstances.
I don't blame him for "lying".
Any self-respecting person would, under the circumstances, in my opinion.
Discretion is the better part of valor, for god's sake.
I don't want to hear about the president's dick, or some fat sow's cum-stained dress.
 
every politician should be critically analyzed by the press every day

but we all know the overwhelming portion of the MSM is riding BHO's **** for the full distance
it is love at first site, and that will not change

I read somewhere that the press should act as a 4 branch of govt., the snitch branch. Way too much of what govt. does TO us goes unreported...
 
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