The Giant Noodle
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Most colleges are not worth it for most people. It's good to see that more and more are waking up to this.
That's why it's a private college.There is a private school by me, which I sure as hell will not be attending..30,000 a year for a school that instills Christian values into you. My friend went there and got kicked out for pornography, 30,000 a year and then they wish to exert that kind of control on you?
Anyways, I am going to community college..Financial it's the best route. 20,000 a year vs. 4,000 a year?
Maybe where you are, but my experience is that our trade schools are excellent, except for the ones that open their doors, collect tuition, then disappear, leaving the student out of money and no training. I agree that our high schools are turning out too many barely educated students. I know of one in Idaho, where we lived for awhile, that had an honor roll that pretty much included all the average and below students. They also had a high honor roll, which meant something. Seems too many parents objected to their kids not making the honor roll, so the school came up with a 2 tiered system. More than a few of those kids started college in remedial classes...The real problem is that colleges have been forced for some time to teach students what they should have learned in high school. They are providing remedial services because of the piss poor public education developed by the teachers' unions. Private companies realize that most high school grads are morons, and therefore seek out college grads to get what they need. Don't believe me, visit any McDonalds or dept store. Add that to the fact that the US has a horrible trade/technical school system and you have a recipe for failure for the average citizen.
Most colleges are not worth it for most people. It's good to see that more and more are waking up to this.
at my work, we just had a kid quit...this kid is the son of one of the guys on my shift, and the kid decided that he much preferred college to working 40++ hours a week plus saturdays.....i say good for him, stay in school , learn a trade/or skillyou don't think so? here i am trying to convince my kids of just the opposite.
at my work, we just had a kid quit...this kid is the son of one of the guys on my shift, and the kid decided that he much preferred college to working 40++ hours a week plus saturdays.....i say good for him, stay in school , learn a trade/or skill
you don't think so? here i am trying to convince my kids of just the opposite.
at my work, we just had a kid quit...this kid is the son of one of the guys on my shift, and the kid decided that he much preferred college to working 40++ hours a week plus saturdays.....i say good for him, stay in school , learn a trade/or skill
Paying $45,000 a year to study Feminist Critical Theory at Vassar = Not worth it.
Paying $45,000 a year to study Physics at Princeton = Worth it.
Paying $25,000 a year to study anything at local non-elite private college = Not worth it.
Paying $12,000 a year to study a real subject at Big State U = Worth it.
Paying $4k a year to study a real subject at local CC = Worth it.
All this assumes that the student wants to work in a field that requires a 4 year degree. Also, if the student wants to go to a professional/graduate school, it's much better to save your money on the UG degree because it's essentially meaningless.
I know huge numbers of kids who took out hundreds of grand in debt (or had their parents pay) so they could go to a private school and major in the same bull**** they could have majored in at CUNY or SUNY.
agreed.....however, professional fields require degrees, and gone are the days where one could start as a clerk and work their way up. you're not advocating no college, you're advocating sensibly priced degrees.
Daunting debt makes some wary of higher education
“It’s a very risky investment,” said Laurence Kotlikoff, an economics professor at Boston University and president of Economic Security Planning Inc., which makes financial planning software.
Calculations done by Kotlikoff for msnbc.com suggest that attending a public college might make more financial sense than a private college. Private schools charge $26,300 a year on average, compared with $7,000 for in-state students at public, four-year schools, according to the College Board.
CONTINUED: Is it worth it to go to college? - Business - Personal finance - msnbc.com
Depends on what you are going to college for. if you are going for a liberal arts degree in Polysci...probably not. If you are going for a math, english, history or literature degree and dont plan to be a teacher, probably not. But if you plan on working in fields where you use your head more than your hands and plan to make significant money then the answer is probably yes. Ive not seen recent studies but the earnings disparity between HS diploma and college graduates is typically pretty significant. Trade colleges are a decent option but those bull**** ITT tech, massage therapy institute, chef schools, CSI academies are all pretty much bull****. Heres a hint...if they are giving away a free laptop or if they have the sentence "we guarantee every student will pass"...run...
The earning disparities between levels of education is probably less of a reflection of the intrinsic value of those degrees and more of a reflection of the type of person that chooses to place himself into each category.
you don't think so? here i am trying to convince my kids of just the opposite.
ask the school recruiter a lot of questions, and get their promises in writing....Depends on what you are going to college for. if you are going for a liberal arts degree in Polysci...probably not. If you are going for a math, english, history or literature degree and dont plan to be a teacher, probably not. But if you plan on working in fields where you use your head more than your hands and plan to make significant money then the answer is probably yes. Ive not seen recent studies but the earnings disparity between HS diploma and college graduates is typically pretty significant. Trade colleges are a decent option but those bull**** ITT tech, massage therapy institute, chef schools, CSI academies are all pretty much bull****. Heres a hint...if they are giving away a free laptop or if they have the sentence "we guarantee every student will pass"...run...
Paying $4k a year to study a real subject at local CC = Worth it.
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