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SourceJun 12, 4:39 PM (ET)
RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) - A Republican congressman who voted for the Iraq war said Sunday that "we've done about as much as we can do" in the country and that the reason for invading Iraq has proven false.
Rep. Walter Jones of North Carolina will be among the lawmakers introducing legislation this week calling for a timetable for the withdrawal of American troops in Iraq.
"When I look at the number of men and women who have been killed - it's almost 1,700 now, in addition to close to 12,000 have been severely wounded - and I just feel that the reason of going in for weapons of mass destruction, the ability of the Iraqis to make a nuclear weapon, that's all been proven that it was never there," Jones said on ABC's "This Week."
President Bush has said any timetable for withdrawal would encourage insurgents to wait for the foreign troops to leave, but Jones said he believed Iraqis can defend their own country.
His stance leaves Jones sided with Sen. Ted Kennedy of Massachusetts, the most prominent Democrat calling for a timetable to leave Iraq. Jones said he had not discussed the issue with Kennedy.
Two years ago, Jones helped lead an effort to make sure Capitol Hill cafeterias retooled their menus to advertise "freedom fries" instead of french fries to protest France's opposition to the war.
Jones said he began changing his mind about the war after attending the funeral in April 2003 for Sgt. Michael Bitz, 31, who was killed in the southern city of Nasiriyah. He recalled that Bitz's widow read the last letter she received from her husband.
"And that really has been on my mind and my heart ever since," he said.
Jones, whose district includes Camp Lejeune and Cherry Point, has written condolence letters to the families of more than 1,300 service people killed in Iraq, and posters outside his congressional office show the faces of those killed.
If we leave too early it may become total caos. That is a problem, so I have mixed feeling about it. It would be nice to bring our boys home though.Ever since the elections in Iraq the violence has gotten worse
Jack said:Ever since the elections in Iraq the violence has gotten worse
Jack said:What is the US strategy?
Jack said:Either way it's not working.
Powells doctrine of overwhelming force? Outdated thinking, as we witnessed a smaller, quicker mobile force capture Baghdad.Jack said:Rumsfled endorsed by Bush invaded Iraq on the cheap, ignoring Powells doctrine of overwhelming force.
Yes.Jack said:The US is training Iraqi forces?
The same malcontents who think freedom and democracy are evil, and that brutal dictatorships are the way to govern.Jack said:WTF, whose training the insurgents?
Then you'd be on the losing side.Jack said:I'd take the insurgents coach any day.
As Bush has said from the very beginning, we will stay until the job is completed.Jack said:The answer is not to let things keep going the way they are because this will go on for years.
Pulling out now would accomplish what?Jack said:The US should either pull out now or double the troops and diplomatic efforts.
Iraqi resistance? The Iraqi people have welcomed us with open arms and are happily enjoying their new found freedoms.GarzaUK said:Well the Iraqi resistance appears in waves, which suggest a wave of recruitment every couple of months.
We gleaned that knowledge from the War of Independace.Cornwallace didn't thoughGarzaUK said:It's safe to say that the Neo-cons have learnt from this war that things do not go as planned or predicted.
Another EU fairy tale to make themselves feel important.The EU might want to focus on their unemployment rates before those economies completely collapse, and the American taxpayer has to bail them out, again.GarzaUK said:That is why the US has turned to the EU to help with Iran.
GottaHurt said:Iraqi resistance? The Iraqi people have welcomed us with open arms and are happily enjoying their new found freedoms.
The resistance is from insurgents, via Syria and Iran.Very few are of Iraqi nationality.
GottaHurt said:We gleaned that knowledge from the War of Independace.Cornwallace didn't though
GottaHurt said:Another EU fairy tale to make themselves feel important.The EU might want to focus on their unemployment rates before those economies completely collapse, and the American taxpayer has to bail them out, again.
Perhaps you missed the televised elections, with 50%+ voter turnout.GarzaUK said:Prove it from and UNBIASED source
Need I school you in your history as well?GarzaUK said:Yawn, what's that? A reference to my ancestors over 200 years dead.
The Europeans just can't seem to accept the fact that they are no longer world powers, they're merely pawns in our game of chess.GarzaUK said:I believe it was your President knocking on our door trying to make amends.:spin:
Jack said:Ever since the elections in Iraq the violence has gotten worse...What is the US strategy?is there a strategy?either way it's not working.Rumsfled endorsed by Bush invaded Iraq on the cheap, ignoring Powells doctrine of overwhelming force, the US is training Iraqi forces? wtf, whose training the insurgents? I'd take the insurgents coach any day. The answer is not to let things keep going the way they are because this will go on for years.
The US should either pull out now or double the troops and diplomatic efforts.
GottaHurt said:Perhaps you missed the televised elections, with 50%+ voter turnout.
Not even suicide bombers hitting the polling stations could turn away a very determined Iraqi population.
It's daily news, from any news source showing the nationalities of the captured insurgents.Do your own homework
GottaHurt said:Need I school you in your history as well?
GottaHurt said:The Europeans just can't seem to accept the fact that they are no longer world powers, they're merely pawns in our game of chess.
GarzaUK said:Give me a link
It was a tongue in cheek response(thus the wink emoticon) to your arrogant assumption that the current US administration, and the current US military leadership are just now learning to understand about the difficulties of planning and executing a battleplan.GarzaUK said:No, but what is the point of making fun of Cornwallis?
You could if it makes you feel better, but it's irrelevant to this thread.GarzaUK said:I could start on how Vietnam kicked your ass, but I'm not going to.
Really.Tony Blair putting his career on the line,Parliment in a complete uproar and the people of GB protesting in the streets.Yet we deployed your British troops to cover our flank, and they're still pulling security details, as we speak.GarzaUK said:If we are indeed pawns, you don't seem to control us very well.
You can pull up your knickers now laddy. The beatings will continue until morale improves.GarzaUK said:And the fact you disrespectally mentioned us as pawns I will put down to pure arrogance on your part.
galenrox said:Dude, one of the things on this forum is we site our sources.
GottaHurt said:Normally I do, but the Queen Mum there was tryin' to put a stiff upper lip on me, so I obliged her with me willy instead.
The thing that strikes me funny, is that the press and internet forums are the only outlets that hammer this home.I've never heard this brought up in day to day conversations, whether at work, home or in a social environment.GarzaUK said:And Americans wonder why they are disliked so much.
Don't play the innocent, you demanded an UNBIASED source.I challenged you to find one, and share it with the rest of us, when you found it.GarzaUK said:What an over reation, just because I would I've like a link to your post.
Your new sig?GarzaUK said:Drama Queens
GarzaUK said:And Americans wonder why they are disliked so much.
Oh yea, like you guys are the toast of the friggin world. Not long ago you guys were what we are accused of being. Imperialists. Maybe a nice rant would make you feel better. Or a Top ten list. Yes.......
From the home office in Tampa..
Top Ten reasons why Garza UK thinks the world hates the US and not Brittan.
10.They say bumbershoot. We say umbrella.
9. Of our two leaders who defeated communism: The world held door open for Thatcher.(A girl). Reagan kicked the friggin door down.
8.Only they know how to spell the color you get when black and white is mixed.
7.They play fair at the Olympics-we just win.
6.GarzaUK doesn't know when they're being insulted. Island monkey.
5.World loves a queen. Fears a President.
4. They take over countries then lose them. We take over countries then give them back. (Lets the beaten regain pride the Brit way).
3. World not intimidated by men wearing wigs. Scared sh*tless of GySgt in BDUs.
2. They think they're protected by the English channel when we only have the friggin ATLANTIC OCEAN.
and the number one reason why Garza UK thinks the world hate the US and not Brittan
1.Their Queen smokes fags. Our fags smoke queens.
Jack said:wtf, whose training the insurgents? I'd take the insurgents coach any day.
The US should either pull out now or double the troops and diplomatic efforts.
GarzaUK said:Well the Iraqi resistance appears in waves, which suggest a wave of recruitment every couple of months
War or threat of war will never tame terrorism. I'm afraid that is the unfortunate truth.
guns_God_glory said:The Iraqi resistence is non-existant. The iraqi's want us there. The insurgents are the ones who are resisting.
Well if fighting terrorism doesn't work what will? let me guess diplomatic efforts?
We are still fighting the Iraq war. It's not over yet. As per Mr. Wolfowitz:GottaHurt said:Powells doctrine of overwhelming force? Outdated thinking, as we witnessed a smaller, quicker mobile force capture Baghdad.
Rumsfeld: U.S. Met With Iraq InsurgentsGottaHurt said:Diplomatic efforts? With who?The insurgents?
Perhaps you'd like to approach them with hat in hand.
Squawker said:I guess this question isn’t for the people who didn’t think we shouldn’t have gone there in the first place, but how about the rest of you? I worry about the ability of the Iraqi’s to maintain order, but perhaps they will rise to the level demanded of them if we leave.
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teacher said:Oh yea, like you guys are the toast of the friggin world. Not long ago you guys were what we are accused of being. Imperialists. Maybe a nice rant would make you feel better. Or a Top ten list. Yes.......
From the home office in Tampa..
Top Ten reasons why Garza UK thinks the world hates the US and not Brittan.
10.They say bumbershoot. We say umbrella.
9. Of our two leaders who defeated communism: The world held door open for Thatcher.(A girl). Reagan kicked the friggin door down.
8.Only they know how to spell the color you get when black and white is mixed.
7.They play fair at the Olympics-we just win.
6.GarzaUK doesn't know when they're being insulted. Island monkey.
5.World loves a queen. Fears a President.
4. They take over countries then lose them. We take over countries then give them back. (Lets the beaten regain pride the Brit way).
3. World not intimidated by men wearing wigs. Scared *****less of GySgt in BDUs.
2. They think they're protected by the English channel when we only have the friggin ATLANTIC OCEAN.
and the number one reason why Garza UK thinks the world hate the US and not Brittan
1.Their Queen smokes fags. Our fags smoke queens.
How long does it take you to make those?
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