Do me a favor & write to your elected reps with the specifics of your ideas on sealing the borders ...I'd love to see it.
(& then compare the costs to President's HC plan.)
OK....Give it another shot then:
Please give us a realistic/affordable method for sealing all our borders???
Please be specific:
How many men will it take? (working in 8 hr shifts)
How much money will it cost?
How high do we build the fence?
How do we fence off the Atlantic & Pacific oceans?
1. Give the illegal aliens 2 weeks to leave. (advertise this on all radio, TV, and newspapers)
2. After the 2 weeks expire, arrest any illegal found and give them 5 years at hard labor. (picking fruit or whatever)
3. get e-verify up and running.
4. Fine any business $10,000.00 per head for any illegal hired.
5. Build a double fence at both borders with intruder sensors and guard towers.
6. Patrol coastal waters out 20 miles, board all suspicious vessels.
That should be a fair start.
1.How many police will it take to do that?1. Give the illegal aliens 2 weeks to leave. (advertise this on all radio, TV, and newspapers)
2. After the 2 weeks expire, arrest any illegal found and give them 5 years at hard labor. (picking fruit or whatever)
How much does that cost & who pays for it?..Who mans the guard towers?5. Build a double fence at both borders with intruder sensors and guard towers.
How much does that cost & who pays for it?..Who mans the patrol boats?6. Patrol coastal waters out 20 miles, board all suspicious vessels.
1. Give the illegal aliens 2 weeks to leave. (advertise this on all radio, TV, and newspapers)
2. After the 2 weeks expire, arrest any illegal found and give them 5 years at hard labor. (picking fruit or whatever)
3. get e-verify up and running.
4. Fine any business $10,000.00 per head for any illegal hired.
5. Build a double fence at both borders with intruder sensors and guard towers.
6. Patrol coastal waters out 20 miles, board all suspicious vessels.
That should be a fair start.
It can be done. The Chinese have already proven that:
dont be so naive. when there is a wil there is a way.
we can put them in prison for a week. not give them anything except water that week and then send them back.
they won't die of starvation in a week but they will get the no free lunch message.
when they come back next month put them in prison for 2 weeks ... without food.
then send them back.
see if they will come back the third time :rofl
I think Canada, Mexico and USA should Unite and stop the failure borders.
Well based on my calculations if you place a soldier every 1/4 mile, 6000 would be enough. Then you need to have shifts, and support personal, and Officers and detention facilities with guards. I think it could be done with 30000 overall perhaps a bit more. I could be wrong in my math though. Plus if you add Helicopters and Unmanned drones and other detection equipment that number could be reduced.
No one wants to seal the borders, they want to control them.
No one is seriously advocating sealing all U.S. borders, so the question is setting up a non existant strawman. If rephrase the question to deal with the debate people are having in the real world to something like "Can we significantly improve our efforts to control our borders and control the flow of illegal immigrants?" then the answer is a resounding yes. My plan is pretty similar to others, but I'll spell it out ...
1. Eliminate all government services and aid for illegal immigrants. The two possible exceptions I could see is allowing them to report a crime without fear of being rounded up by the police and allowing life saving medical treatment, but they would be deported once stablized. With no welfare, foodstamps, education, healthcare, ect available, the US is a lot less attractive to illegal immigrants.
2. Local police should be required to detain illegals caught in any sort of criminal activity. No more illegal immigrants with rap sheets longer than my right arm.
2. Impose harsh fines and penalties for companies that knowingly hire illegal immigrants. I could go along with asset siezure as a penalty here. With no government services and no jobs, why the heck would they want to come here?
3. Increase border patrols and enforcement. I'm not necessarily advocating building a fence, though I'm not opposed to it. Whatever is the best combination of cost effectiveness and efficiency.
I'd also be willing to re-examine the anchor baby
In exchange for implementing some version of this plan, I'd go along with a pathway for citizenship for folks already here, as long as it including paying a fine and going to the back of the line. I wouldn't ask them to return to their country of origin, as that's just asking for them to ignore the program entirely.
My plan removes incentives for coming here and steps up enforcement to make it more difficult. Will it completely stop illegal immigration? No, but no laws completely eliminate the things they prohibit. But I firmly believe it would noticeably if not dramatically decrease illegal immigration from the levels it is at now.
If there are any mathematicians in the group, maybe they could calculate something for us:
Divide the above stated border length by the population of this country & then figure how far apart they would have to stand to watch the entire border, we could get an idea of how well such a plan would work. (of course, to be realistic......you would have to divide the population # by 1/3 to allow for only 8 hour working shifts)
U.S. pop/three 102,474,081
U.S./Mex border 124,755,840 inches (1969 mi)
they would have to stand 1.2 inches apart
ugh that's not close enough!!1
What a great idea!!! Mass the entire population of the U.S. (men, women & children ) along the Mexican border, (in 8 hr shifts) & have them face Mexico.
A few problems I foresee:
1. Who works at making food, driving trucks, works in hospitals, goes to school.......... or doing anything else while we all stand on the border?
2. Suppose the Mexicans are smart enough to get into a boat? (there's no one left to stop them??)
3. We no longer will have any armed forces (as we're all standing on the Mexican border...facing out) so Al Quieda can just drive across any Canadian border crossing & take over Washington DC
Those are just a few minor details but....I think your plan has real merit!!:lol::lol:
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dude this was your plan, not mine. you just saved me the trouble of making it look stupid.
Hmmm....I thought I was the one saying sealing the borders would be impossible??
That wasn't me...Dude??
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