Is it okay for leftists to praise Adolf Hitler?

[DarkWizard12]

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loc...n-says-hitler-was-right-on-one-thing/2409325/

A newly-sworn in congresswoman from southern Illinois quoted Adolf Hitler as she spoke outside the U.S. Capitol, saying the German Nazi leader "was right on one thing."


Rep. Mary Miller was speaking at a rally in Washington, D.C. when a Twitter user posted video Tuesday showing a portion of her speech.


"If we win a few elections, we’re still going to be losing unless we win the hearts and minds of our children. This is the battle," Miller is heard saying in the footage. "Hitler was right on one thing. He said, ‘Whoever has the youth has the future.’”

This would seem to indicate that mrs. Mary Miller here is all for indoctrinating youth, the same way hitler did.

and instead of saying something like...idk...that he was "mistaken" or he was too "Cruel" in his practices, she just outright praises him.

considering the topic of Adolf Hitler, I think the IL gov's remarks, and remarks by the State Gop Chairman, are far more appropriate

Illinois Gov. J.B. Pritzker on Wednesday called Miller's remarks "unfathomable and disgusting."


"Hitler got nothing right," Pritzker said during an unrelated press conference. "This reprehensible rhetoric has no place in our politics."


Illinois GOP Chairman Tim Schneider in a statement called the language "wrong and disgusting.

So yea, is it okay lefty politicians to make such open praise of Adolf Hitler? I thought only Nazis did that, but you know, if they can praise hitler on things he got right, maybe the other side should too?

 

[Aunt Antifa]

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loc...n-says-hitler-was-right-on-one-thing/2409325/


This would seem to indicate that mrs. Mary Miller here is all for indoctrinating youth, the same way hitler did.

and instead of saying something like...idk...that he was "mistaken" or he was too "Cruel" in his practices, she just outright praises him.

considering the topic of Adolf Hitler, I think the IL gov's remarks, and remarks by the State Gop Chairman, are far more appropriate



So yea, is it okay lefty politicians to make such open praise of Adolf Hitler? I thought only Nazis did that, but you know, if they can praise hitler on things he got right, maybe the other side should too?

JP Pritzker is a Democrat. Did you mean to quote a Democrat calling out her comments to prove Democrats haven’t called out her comments?

 

[Jetboogieman]

When you are tempted to say the phrase "Hitler got one thing right".

Just... Perhaps... Don't.

There... Simple.

 

[DarkWizard12]

JP Pritzker is a Democrat. Did you mean to quote a Democrat calling out her comments to prove Democrats haven’t called out her comments?

Yes actually. I wanted to see other people's opinion on a progressive congresswoman praising Adolf Hitler.

Do they agree with Pritzker, and rightfully, the state GOP, or do they agree with Congresswoman Miller?

 

[Aunt Antifa]

Yes actually. I wanted to see other people's opinion on a progressive congresswoman praising Adolf Hitler.

Do they agree with Pritzker, and rightfully, the state GOP, or do they agree with Congresswoman Miller?

I”m sure they disagree with Miller saying Hitler got something right.

 

[swing_voter]

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loc...n-says-hitler-was-right-on-one-thing/2409325/


This would seem to indicate that mrs. Mary Miller here is all for indoctrinating youth, the same way hitler did.

and instead of saying something like...idk...that he was "mistaken" or he was too "Cruel" in his practices, she just outright praises him.

considering the topic of Adolf Hitler, I think the IL gov's remarks, and remarks by the State Gop Chairman, are far more appropriate



So yea, is it okay lefty politicians to make such open praise of Adolf Hitler? I thought only Nazis did that, but you know, if they can praise hitler on things he got right, maybe the other side should too?

The Nazis also supported an extensive welfare state (of course, for ‘ethnically pure’ Germans). It included free higher education, family and child support, pensions, health insurance and an array of publically supported entertainment and vacation options. All spheres of life, economy included, had to be subordinated to the ‘national interest’ (Gemeinnutz geht vor Eigennutz), and the fascist commitment to foster social equality and mobility.

Fascism was a right-wing anti-capitalist movement | Aeon Ideas

Fascism wasn’t just racism. When other parties offered people little help, fascists built substantial social welfare

aeon.co

It was only socialist for "Aryans". Anyone else was treated like dirt, or worse.


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[Phys251]

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loc...n-says-hitler-was-right-on-one-thing/2409325/


This would seem to indicate that mrs. Mary Miller here is all for indoctrinating youth, the same way hitler did.

and instead of saying something like...idk...that he was "mistaken" or he was too "Cruel" in his practices, she just outright praises him.

considering the topic of Adolf Hitler, I think the IL gov's remarks, and remarks by the State Gop Chairman, are far more appropriate



So yea, is it okay lefty politicians to make such open praise of Adolf Hitler? I thought only Nazis did that, but you know, if they can praise hitler on things he got right, maybe the other side should too?

It's not our side of the aisle who condones that monster.

 

[j brown's body]

It's a really bad idea for anyone to evoke Hitler's name in a positive way.

 

[aociswundumho]

"If we win a few elections, we’re still going to be losing unless we win the hearts and minds of our children. This is the battle," Miller is heard saying in the footage. "Hitler was right on one thing. He said, ‘Whoever has the youth has the future.’”

I don't seen how any progressive could disagree with this, considering the long history of leftists indoctrinating children. Hell, the Khmer Rouge took it one step further by simply removing children from their parents care.

 

[Manc Skipper]

I don't seen how any progressive could disagree with this, considering the long history of leftists indoctrinating children. Hell, the Khmer Rouge took it one step further by simply removing children from their parents care.

I can't see the Jesuits as leftist somehow. "Give me a child until he is seven and I will show you the man."

 

[bomberfox]

The Nazis also supported an extensive welfare state (of course, for ‘ethnically pure’ Germans). It included free higher education, family and child support, pensions, health insurance and an array of publically supported entertainment and vacation options. All spheres of life, economy included, had to be subordinated to the ‘national interest’ (Gemeinnutz geht vor Eigennutz), and the fascist commitment to foster social equality and mobility.

Fascism was a right-wing anti-capitalist movement | Aeon Ideas

Fascism wasn’t just racism. When other parties offered people little help, fascists built substantial social welfare

aeon.co

It was only socialist for "Aryans". Anyone else was treated like dirt, or worse.


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Fascists are categorically opposed to equality. Having welfare programs does not change the economic system.

 

[aociswundumho]

Fascists are categorically opposed to equality.

So are progressives. For example, you support taxing people differently depending on how much money they have. You support college admissions based on skin color. You also support inequality regarding self-defense, in that you don't want the common man to have access to firearms but you have no problem with politicians being guarded by armed security.

I'll stop there, but the idea that progressives support equality is absurd on its face.

 

[aociswundumho]

It's a really bad idea for anyone to evoke Hitler's name in a positive way.

I'll bet you had no problem with Bernie Sanders talking about Castro in a positive way.

 

[HK.227]

This would seem to indicate that mrs. Mary Miller here is all for indoctrinating youth, the same way hitler did.

I think you should distinguish more between character and actions.
The Nazis were in front in a number of areas, such as maternity leave and animal rights.
However, the reason Nazis were bad is not because of those things. It's because they were collectivists who used collectivist solutions, such as resorting to murdering people entirely on the basis of group membership.
Nor was the USSR bad because it sent Gargarin into space or had free education. It was bad because it oppressed and murdered people, and tried to destroy the human spirit.
So of course everything Hitler did was not bad, and saying so in no way endorses his character or detestable actions.

 

[Fabiusbile]

Yes actually. I wanted to see other people's opinion on a progressive congresswoman praising Adolf Hitler.

This is a very interesting question... and believe me, it is much sharper in my country than in the USA.

It all depends on the intelligence of the listeners and their taboos.
Personally, there is nothing prejudicial for me to evaluate Hitler impartially (sooner or later this will become commonplace).
Was Hitler a talented manager? Yes.
Was Hitler a talented orator? Yes.
Was Hitler a criminal? Yes.

But is it worth it for a modern Western politician to quote Hitler and recognize his successes? I think this is unwise. The audience of listeners is too wide and the field for interpretation of what the politician said is too large.
For historians

 

[Somerville]

This is a very interesting question... and believe me, it is much sharper in my country than in the USA.

It all depends on the intelligence of the listeners and their taboos.
Personally, there is nothing prejudicial for me to evaluate Hitler impartially (sooner or later this will become commonplace).
Was Hitler a talented manager? Yes.
Was Hitler a talented orator? Yes.
Was Hitler a criminal? Yes.

But is it worth it for a modern Western politician to quote Hitler and recognize his successes? I think this is unwise. The audience of listeners is too wide and the field for interpretation of what the politician said is too large.
For historians

A Democratic politician says that Hitler was right about one thing and is quickly labeled a neo-Nazi. What about Donald J Trump saying certain words?

Trump told John Kelly that Hitler 'did a lot of good things,' book claims​

Former President Trump reportedly said in a conversation with then-chief of staff John Kelly during his 2018 trip to Europe to commemorate the end of World War I that Adolf Hitler “did a lot of good things.”

The conversation is included in an upcoming book from The Wall Street Journal’s Michael Bender, “Frankly, We Did Win This Election: The Inside Story of How Trump Lost,” a copy of which was obtained by The Guardian.

The news outlet reported that while Trump denied making the remark to Kelly, several unidentified sources said Kelly “told the president that he was wrong, but Trump was undeterred.”

Anne Frank's stepsister: Trump 'obviously admired Hitler ​

 

[Nickyjo]

https://www.nbcchicago.com/news/loc...n-says-hitler-was-right-on-one-thing/2409325/


This would seem to indicate that mrs. Mary Miller here is all for indoctrinating youth, the same way hitler did.

and instead of saying something like...idk...that he was "mistaken" or he was too "Cruel" in his practices, she just outright praises him.

considering the topic of Adolf Hitler, I think the IL gov's remarks, and remarks by the State Gop Chairman, are far more appropriate



So yea, is it okay lefty politicians to make such open praise of Adolf Hitler? I thought only Nazis did that, but you know, if they can praise hitler on things he got right, maybe the other side should too?

Even a stopped, genocidal clock like Hitler can be right twice a day. He also seemed to be right for claiming that Germany got screwed post WWI. Mussolini made the trains run on time. Trump preached bigotry and division, endorsed war crimes in imitation of Adolf, but had "Operation Warp Speed" and helped free prisoners with unjust sentences.

Tempest, meet teapot. Teapot, tempest.

 

[bomberfox]

Like where the hell do goofballs get this idea that hitler was for equality?