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The racial IQ gap does not exist because race does not exist in any meaningful scientific form.
Yes it does, race is the shared phenotypic characteristics of a geographically linked population.
How many races are there then?
Color doesn't exist because you can't tell us precisely how many colors exist in the spectrum.
How many races are there then?
What phenotypic characteristics do black people have in common? White people?
You answered your own question there, black people have black skin, white people have white skin.
Race in humans is exactly the same concept as breeds in dogs
What level of melanin denotes a "black" person? What of a white? What of a "white" person who tans enough to get above this arbitrary threshold? Are they now "black"? What of "black" people who are light skinned and fall below this arbitrary threshold? Are they now white?
Are you now going to try to be the first person in history to finally define the distinctions between races, here on this message board, where thousands - perhaps millions - of others have tried and failed?
Except it's not similar at all. The fact that you'd dredge up this tired old pseudo-argument is telling of your complete lack of knowledge on what you're attempting to discuss.
What level of melanin denotes a "black" person? What of a white? What of a "white" person who tans enough to get above this arbitrary threshold? Are they now "black"? What of "black" people who are light skinned and fall below this arbitrary threshold? Are they now white?
Well melanin content isn't the only indicator, there's facial structure, predisposition to diseases, physical build etc.
You're being deliberately obtuse, the concept of race isn't built upon an individual, but on a population
Perhaps, if there's no scientific basis for race, you can tell me why the indigenous population of Somalia doesn't exhibit the same skin colour characteristics of the indigenous population of Germany.
After all, if there's no race, then surely the genes for that can spring up anywhere?
What's the difference then?
Differing general traits such as skin pigmentation over geographic expanses does not equal races existing.
Domestic dog breeds have a high level of genetic isolation and differentiation between breeds due to, you know, domestication. Blacks and whites have more in common than different breeds of dog due to endogamous breeding. Also, different breeds of dogs are not different species, they all fall under the same subspecies.
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That's the entire concept of race, that a geographic area leads to selection of certain advantageous traits over less advantageous traits, and the population of that area shares those traits, hence they become a distinct race.
You're just flatly denying this because you don't want to acknowledge it.
But you said that different traits over an area don't make a race, and here you're saying it does, that genetic isolation makes breeds in dogs, but nor races in humans, make up your mind already.
Or perhaps it's the level of genetic difference, so if I were to breed a Labrador with a Chihuahua, and then keep breeding the offspring which Chihuahuas, at what specific level of genetic similarity would it stop being a Labrador x Chihuahua and become a Chihuahua?
And what is 254-255-0?
The racial IQ gap does not exist because race does not exist in any meaningful scientific form.
If race has no scientific validity than a correlative or causative statement based on race does not either.
Disagree. Poor and rich are not biological or scientific concepts. But that doesn't mean that the claim that "poor people have lower IQs" has no validity, or that it doesn't warrant examination.
Can anyone provide empirical evidence that evolution left the overall intellect of all races absolutely equal? What can you say about the Chinese with their civilizational progress many thousands of years ago? And if race supposedly doesn't exist, how can you argue that evolution blessed everyone with absolutely equal intellect?
This is what is called a non-sequitur. I agree that the concept of race doesn't really have any substance when it comes to scientific validity. But the IQ gap is still there. What's troubling is many people seem content with the theory that this means that somehow blacks are inherently stupider.
There is no absolute equal in anything, evolution or otherwise. That also means that within any specific ethnic classification there will be variants, deviations, and averages. And regionally, you'll see even more convolution.
That also means there is no absolute perfect test for intelligence. Evolutionary and cultural differences will skew the mean. As many posts as RiverDad has made about IQs for blacks being lower, he's never been able to acknowledge that there are just as many (if not more) studies which show beyond question that those IQ tests were an inaccurate measure of intelligence due to a failure to adjust for cultural variations.
Exactly, instead of using the IQ as proof that African Americans have been held back by hears of oppression, these two are actually claiming that they just do not have the mental capacity. It seems to me that there would be some sort of scientific evidence of this, but I have seen none yet. It seems to me that education of cultural group is an exponential function, not linear.
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