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I'm thinking that somewhere there is a difference between attending the event in real time and watching an audio/video broadcast of the same event......?
Not for those people who claim to stand every single time they hear the national anthem or say that people who don't stand every single time are trash. They don't differentiate.
Then the topic falls on that same slippery slope of all things that some people believe should happen and others do not. Where does it stop and who gets to determine the answers?
I think some people who are saying that they stand every single time are straight up lying so this non issue will just fade away. It shouldn't matter to anyone what someone does if they are not breaking a law and do we really want a law forcing able bodied people to stand up during the national anthem? I would hope the majority says no.
I'm thinking that somewhere there is a difference between attending the event in real time and watching an audio/video broadcast of the same event......?
I'm thinking that somewhere there is a difference between attending the event in real time and watching an audio/video broadcast of the same event......?
I'm thinking not - the difference, IMHO, is whether you are in pubic or private but we must remember that many of these folks are sports fans (meaning that they are, first and foremost, fanatics). Then again, I have witnessed folks loudly clap and cheer when watching a movie scene that they found so intense that they (apparently?) forgot that they were in a public theater and that their ruckus might annoy other theater patrons.
So anyone who exercises their rights should be free from criticism?
No, they shouldn't be. They have the freedom to not stand up and others have the freedom to criticize it. I should have said what someone does during the national anthem. I mean really, am I to actually believe some of these people who claim to stand up every single time they hear it?
So anyone who exercises their rights should be free from criticism?
No, they shouldn't be. They have the freedom to not stand up and others have the freedom to criticize it. I should have said what someone does during the national anthem. I mean really, am I to actually believe some of these people who claim to stand up every single time they hear it?
You implied otherwise when you said that as long as someone isnt breaking the law it shouldnt matter to anyone else
Honestly, it has been a long time since i was in a sports bar for a game. The Army/Navy game a few years ago and I do not recall a single patron changing their activity when the anthem was played. This was in the greater DC area. Things sound different in Texas. I cannot speak to that.
Posted this in another thread but thought it would make an interesting poll:
I was at a sports bar this weekend and the game was starting anthem came on. I heard at least a dozen people sit there, while the anthem was playing, bitching about playing kneeling.
Sitting there, drinking beer, scratching their nuts, while the anthem played complaining that people aren't standing with their hands over their hearts or saluting while the anthem was playing.
Thinking back to watching games, superbowls ect over the years, I have friends who sit and eat chicken wings and chips through the national anthem, but are genuinely outraged that others do it.
Now I do believe that the vast majority of people upset about this sit through the anthem when large crowds of people aren't watching so the question here is, are there people hypocrites?
Yes and no. Yes, if they claim that standing up for the anthem is a general, all-encompassing prerogative. No, if the athletes standing is just what they've come to expect as a regular part of their sports entertainment consumption, and they're infuriated because the athletes are living up to their expected roles. Neither are very admirable scenarios.
I guess that (bolded above) appears to be the real issue - certain changes in behavior, during the playing of the national anthem, is the issue. Standing, facing the flag (if present) is the generally expected and accepted behavior change - assuming a political protest stance is the behavior change that is being objected to by many and yet simply acting oblivious to the situation (no behavior change at all) is not generally seen as disrespectful.
What is the admirable scenario?
You are saying then that if you acknowledge that the anthem is being played and choose not to stand then it is disrespectful.
However ignoring it all together and pretending that it is not even being played is ok?
Posted this in another thread but thought it would make an interesting poll:
I was at a sports bar this weekend and the game was starting anthem came on. I heard at least a dozen people sit there, while the anthem was playing, bitching about playing kneeling.
Sitting there, drinking beer, scratching their nuts, while the anthem played complaining that people aren't standing with their hands over their hearts or saluting while the anthem was playing.
Thinking back to watching games, superbowls ect over the years, I have friends who sit and eat chicken wings and chips through the national anthem, but are genuinely outraged that others do it.
Now I do believe that the vast majority of people upset about this sit through the anthem when large crowds of people aren't watching so the question here is, are there people hypocrites?
I'm thinking that somewhere there is a difference between attending the event in real time and watching an audio/video broadcast of the same event......?
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