1. The regime change we brought about in Iraq removed a mortal enemy of Iran and put into power a corrupt and very friendly government government to Iran. This made Iran the most powerful Muslim nation in the Middle East.
2. The Iranians know their actions now have little consequence other than economic sanctions because they know that after we spent 10 years and trillions of dollars nation building in Iraq, the citizens of the United States are simply not going to stand for another full scale war in the Middle East for at least another generation.
3. We cannot bring on other nations because just 10 years ago we lied to the world about the supposed threat that Iraq posed to world peace as well as Iraq's supposed massive stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons that didn't exist. Not to mention their purported advanced nuclear weapons program that didn't exist. Thus we no longer have any credibility with the rest of the world.
4. Iran has no incentive to cooperate with any type of U.N. weapons inspections because it did not prevent war in Iraq despite the fact weapons inspectors were in the country finding nothing other than what was already known and accounted for. Moreover, they now have every incentive to develop nuclear weapons as a safeguard against any attempts at regime change from the United States.
Beau, I would "like" any post that draws attention to the fact that 77% of the attackers on 9/11 were Saudi Arabian, regardless of who posted it, or to whom they were posting it to. It's been a sore spot with me since it happened, I didn't like the quick evacuations that Saudis in the States got after the attacks nor the treatment they have had ever since. Also, I don't appreciate the deal negotiated between Clinton (the US) over the "Arab Spring" suppression in Bahrain for support in Libya, another failed US policy. But that said, I didn't intend to offend you, and though you likely didn't notice it, in post 55, I stood up for you when responding to serato's post that prompted you to terminate your discussion with him.
Most worse is that you gave a lesson to the current leaders in ME.
During Iraq-Iran war
Saddam Hussein was given diplomatic, monetary, and military support by the U.S., including massive loans, political clout, and intelligence on Iranian deployments gathered using American spy satellites.
With Iranian success on the battlefield, the U.S. made its backing of Iraq more pronounced, supplying intelligence, economic aid, and dual-use equipment and vehicles, as well as normalizing their intergovernmental relations.
In 1982, Reagan removed Iraq from the list of countries "supporting terrorism" and sold weapons such as howitzers to Iraq via Jordan and Israel. France sold Iraq millions of dollars worth of weapons, including Gazelle helicopters, Mirage F-1 fighters, and Exocet missiles. Both the United States and West Germany sold Iraq dual-use pesticides and poisons that would be used to create chemical and other weapons, such as Roland missiles.
In 2006, Saddam was gone.
Good or bad, no one trust USA/West in that region anymore. Every puppet leader there does not worth anything and just make things worse.
That's interesting! I missed that. I too wonder what Canada knows.
Following the 1979 Iranian revolution, the Canadian embassy provided cover to six American consular staff and assisted in their escape from the country during the Iran hostage crisis.[25] The Canadian embassy in Tehran was closed for eight years thereafter.
Iran established an embassy in Canada in 1991, and in 1996 the two countries reestablished normal diplomatic relations and exchanged ambassadors. The relationship experienced further turmoil in 2003, when Iranian-Canadian photojournalist Zahra Kazemi was killed in custody in Iran.
On September 7, 2012, Canada severed diplomatic ties with Iran, closed its embassy in Tehran, and expelled Iranian diplomats from Canada, citing Iranian foreign policy, support for the Syrian government, violations of human rights, threats against Israel, the Iranian nuclear program, and security concerns for its diplomats in the country. Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper has said that the Iranian government is "unambiguously, a clear and present danger" and that "the appeal of our conscience requires us to speak out against what the Iranian regime stands for."[26] Canadian Minister of Foreign Affairs John Baird announces Canada is breaking diplomatic relations with Iran, Friday, September 7, 2012,[27] Calling Iran "the most significant threat to global peace and security in the world"
In the short time Isis is more dangerous but in the long time Iran most likely is a bigger danger.
Clinton had so much disregard for Al Qaeda that he passed up chances to take out bin Laden...resulting in 9/11.
1. The regime change we brought about in Iraq removed a mortal enemy of Iran and put into power a corrupt and very friendly government government to Iran. This made Iran the most powerful Muslim nation in the Middle East.
2. The Iranians know their actions now have little consequence other than economic sanctions because they know that after we spent 10 years and trillions of dollars nation building in Iraq, the citizens of the United States are simply not going to stand for another full scale war in the Middle East for at least another generation.
3. We cannot bring on other nations because just 10 years ago we lied to the world about the supposed threat that Iraq posed to world peace as well as Iraq's supposed massive stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons that didn't exist. Not to mention their purported advanced nuclear weapons program that didn't exist. Thus we no longer have any credibility with the rest of the world.
4. Iran has no incentive to cooperate with any type of U.N. weapons inspections because it did not prevent war in Iraq despite the fact weapons inspectors were in the country finding nothing other than what was already known and accounted for. Moreover, they now have every incentive to develop nuclear weapons as a safeguard against any attempts at regime change from the United States.
ye, as alwaysThe "dual-use pesticides" is a load of crap.
As part of Project 922, German firms such as Karl Kolb helped build Iraqi chemical weapons facilities such as laboratories, bunkers, an administrative building, and first production buildings in the early 1980s under the cover of a pesticide plant. Other German firms sent 1,027 tons of precursors of mustard gas, sarin, tabun, and tear gasses in all. All told, 52% of Iraq's international chemical weapon equipment was of German origin.[citation needed] One of the contributions was a £14m chlorine plant known as "Falluja 2", built by Uhde Ltd, a UK subsidiary of a German company; the plant was given financial guarantees by the UK's Export Credits Guarantee Department despite official UK recognition of a "strong possibility" the plant would be used to make mustard gas.[4] The guarantees led to UK government payment of £300,000 to Uhde in 1990 after completion of the plant was interrupted by the first Gulf War.[4] In 1994 and 1996 three people were convicted in Germany of export offenses.[5]
France also provided glass-lined reactors, tanks, vessels, and columns used for the production of chemical weapons. Around 21% of Iraq’s international chemical weapon equipment was French. 75,000 shells and rockets designed for chemical weapon use also came from Italy. About 100 tons of mustard gas also came from Brazil. The United States exported $500 million of dual use exports to Iraq that were approved by the Commerce Department. Among them were advanced computers, some of which were used in Iraq’s nuclear program. Austria also provided heat exchangers, tanks, condensers, and columns for the Iraqi chemical weapons infrastructure, 16% of the international sales. Singapore gave 4,515 tons of precursors for VX, sarin, tabun, and mustard gasses to Iraq. The Dutch gave 4,261 tons of precursors for sarin, tabun, mustard, and tear gasses to Iraq. Egypt gave 2,400 tons of tabun and sarin precursors to Iraq and 28,500 tons of weapons designed for carrying chemical munitions. India gave 2,343 tons of precursors to VX, tabun, Sarin, and mustard gasses. Luxembourg gave Iraq 650 tons of mustard gas precursors. Spain gave Iraq 57,500 munitions designed for carrying chemical weapons. In addition, they provided reactors, condensers, columns and tanks for Iraq’s chemical warfare program, 4.4% of the international sales. China provided 45,000 munitions designed for chemical warfare.[citation needed]
Prior to the war, the governments of the United States and the United Kingdom claimed that Iraq's alleged possession of weapons of mass destruction (WMD) posed a threat to their security and that of their allies.[51][52][53] In 2002, the United Nations Security Council passed Resolution 1441 which called for Iraq to completely cooperate with UN weapon inspectors to verify that Iraq was not in possession of WMD and cruise missiles. Prior to the attack, the United Nations Monitoring, Verification and Inspection Commission (UNMOVIC) found no evidence of WMD.
After investigation following the invasion, the U.S.‑led Iraq Survey Group concluded that Iraq had ended its nuclear, chemical and biological programs in 1991 and had no active programs at the time of the invasion, but that they intended to resume production if the Iraq sanctions were lifted.[58] Only degraded remnants of misplaced and abandoned chemical weapons were found.
Some U.S. officials also accused Iraqi President Saddam Hussein of harboring and supporting al-Qaeda,[62] but no evidence of a meaningful connection was ever found.
On 16 March 2003, the U.S. government advised the U.N. inspectors to leave their unfinished work and exit from Iraq.[69] On 20 March[70] the American-led coalition conducted a surprise[71] military invasion of Iraq without declaring war.
Oh dear, you too don't know why OBL attacked us on 9/11.
If you think bin Laden, ISIS and Iran would be no danger to the US...or anyone else...if we would only be nice people, then you are hopelessly naive about the real world.
ye, as always
Iraqi chemical weapons program - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Iraq War - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Got the point of the hypocrisy now?!
Recently Netanuahu stated at the UN General Assembly that Iran is a greater threat than ISIS. Do you agree with this statement?
Video can be found here: [h=1]Netanyahu: Iran poses greater threat than Islamic State[/h]
Neither article even mentions the US.
The United States exported $500 million of dual use exports to Iraq that were approved by the Commerce Department. Among them were advanced computers, some of which were used in Iraq’s nuclear program.
:shock:The so-called hypocrisy is just a false narrative you push (with unrelated links) to demonize the US.
You have the ability to watch CNN, look at YouTube videos, read press media reports or for a military perspective do a little research at Janes as to what Hamas and Hezbollah are and want. There are numerous threads here on this very topic that follow the forum rules, which posting them here would not.
No...you supposed to believe well know facts. If you read a paper you'd know all those things are FACTS. Silly liberal.
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It's common knowledge. I will not be confronted by ignorance. Good day.
That's interesting! I missed that. I too wonder what Canada knows.
Here's how debates work:
You make a point you at least back it up with a link. You don't say look it up or it's common knowledge. If you're too lazy to post a link than it must not be that important.
So what's your point? This source I read on associated with the post and I believe museum didn't have them deployed there.
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:shock:
Canada has a lot of coveted seal hunting classified data.
Funny!
Recently Netanuahu stated at the UN General Assembly that Iran is a greater threat than ISIS. Do you agree with this statement?
Video can be found here: [h=1]Netanyahu: Iran poses greater threat than Islamic State[/h]
okay then.You failed to prove the US provided any arms to Iraq (there was not even MENTION of the US in the article you cited) and your "dual use" is BS. Spare us the Alex Jones crap.
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