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This sexual reproduction evolved exclusively around a female's egg being fertilized by the sperm from a male_
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Transgender no longer a mental ‘disorder’ in diagnostic manual | WPMT FOX43
Now they are doing it for transgenderism. The man that pushed for it is jewish.
"Is Homosexuality A Choice?"
Pay very close attention because most of you probably never heard homosexuality explained quite like this!
Sex is simply the evolved biological function of most complex organisms for the purpose of reproduction_
This sexual reproduction evolved exclusively around a female's egg being fertilized by the sperm from a male_
The reproduction process begins with the sexual arousal and union of a male and female of the same species_
For this to occur the male and female evolved a physical attraction to each other to stimulate sexual arousal_
But the minds of complex organisms don't always work the way they're suppose to which creates abnormalities_
Which is why some people are attracted to animals, children or the same sex, rather than the opposite sex_
Any and all abnormal sexual attractions, including "homosexuality", is the result of a psychological disorder_
Acting on an abnormal sexual attraction is a "choice" but deciding what we're sexually attracted to is not_
Which is why child molesters can't be rehabilitated anymore than a homosexual attraction to the same sex can_
This may not be the most Politically Correct explanation, but it is the reason I checked the No box in the pole!
Clearly a genetic defect
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Again opinion
I am correct because it is a mental disorder...shall we examine what else happened around the time homosexuality was supposedly eliminated from being a mental disorder...Lets look at the names of the people involved in doing this...their politics as well...militant communists,jews and liberals.
This was the first study that examined, psychologically, nonpatients; the opposite was a serious methological flaw in past studies. Experienced psychologists saw NO difference.Psychologist Evelyn Hooker's groundbreaking study compared the projective test results from 30 nonpatient homosexual men with those of 30 nonpatient heterosexual men. The study found that experienced psychologists, unaware of whose test results they were interpreting, could not distinguish between the two groups. This study was a serious challenge to the view that homosexuality was always associated with psychopathology.
Some quotes and anectodes from the book:Product Description
Interviews and first-hand accounts of an historic decision that affected the mental health profession—and American society and culture Through the personal accounts of those who were there, American Psychiatry and Homosexuality: An Oral History examines the 1973 decision by the American Psychiatric Association (APA) to remove homosexuality from its diagnostic and statistical manual of mental disorders (DSM). This unique book includes candid, one-on-one interviews with key mental health professionals who played a role in the APA’s decision, those who helped organize gay, lesbian, and bisexual psychiatrists after the decision, and others who have made significant contributions in this area within the mental health field.
American Psychiatry and Homosexuality presents an insider’s view of how homosexuality was removed from the DSM, the gradual organization of gay and lesbian psychiatrists within the APA, and the eventual formation of the APA-allied Association of Gay & Lesbian Psychiatrists (AGLP). The book profiles 17 individuals, both straight and gay, who made important contributions to organized psychiatry and the mental health needs of lesbian and gay patients, and illustrates the role that gay and lesbian psychiatrists would later play in the mental health field when they no longer had to hide their identities.
Individuals profiled in American Psychiatry and Homosexuality include:
Dr. John Fryer, who disguised his identity to speak before the APA’s annual meeting in 1972 on the discrimination gay psychiatrists faced in their own profession
Dr. Charles Silverstein, who saw the diagnosis of homosexuality as a means of social control
Dr. Lawrence Hartmann, who helped reform the APA and later served as its President in 1991-92
Dr. Robert J. Campbell, who helped persuade the APA’s Nomenclature Committee to hear scientific data presented by gay activists
Dr. Judd Marmor, an early psychoanalytic critic of theories that pathologized homosexuality
Dr. Robert Spitzer, who chaired the APA’s Nomenclature Committee
Dr. Frank Rundle, who helped organize the first meeting of what would become the APA Caucus of Gay, Lesbian and Bisexual Psychiatrists
Dr. David Kessler, AGLP President from 1980-82
Dr. Nanette Gartrell, a pioneer of feminist issues within the APA
Dr. Stuart Nichols, President of the AGLP in 1983-84 and a founding member of the Gay and Lesbian Psychiatrists of New York (GLPNY)
Dr. Emery Hetrick, a founding member of both AGLP and GLPNY
Dr. Bertram Schaffner, who was instrumental in providing group psychotherapy for physicians with AIDS
Dr. Martha Kirkpatrick, a long-time leader in psychiatry and psychoanalysis, both as a woman and an “out” lesbian
Dr. Richard Isay, the first openly gay psychoanalyst in the American Psychoanalytic Association
Dr. Richard Pillard, best known for studying the incidence of homosexuality in families of twins
Dr. Edward Hanin, former Speaker of the APA Assembly
Dr. Ralph Roughton, the first openly gay Training and Supervising Psychoanalyst to be recognized within the American and International Psychoanalytic Associations
American Psychiatry and Homosexuality presents the personal, behind-the-scenes accounts of a major historical event in psychiatry and medicine and of a decision that has affected society and culture ever since. This is an essential resource for mental health educators, supervisors, and professionals; historians; and LGBT readers in general.
Amazon.com: American Psychiatry and Homosexuality: An Oral History: Jack Drescher, Joseph P. Merlino: Books
By contrast, these first-person accounts provide corrective insider views of the process. Several speak of the depressing psychiatric attitudes prior to 1973. Lawrence Hartmann recalls, "The few analysts who wrote about gay people tended to describe them as nasty psychopaths, close to psychosis. I am not making this up!"
Judd Marmor recalls the view that "homosexuals were inherently seriously mentally disturbed, irresponsible, and completely driven by needs over which they had no control." They were supposedly "emotionally immature, deceptive, impulsive, unreliable, and incapable of truly loving."
...gay activist Ron Gold arranged for gays to meet with the APA's Committee on Nomenclature where they laid out evidence from studies supporting gay mental health. Robert Jean Campbell recalls, "They had a lot of data that I had never seen. I don't know where they got it, but I was really overwhelmed by the data."
Campbell argued that the committee should take its own look at the scientific evidence about homosexuality.
Spitzer recalls thinking, "Is there something that they (other mental disorders) all share that I can argue does not apply to homosexuality?" His conclusion was that people with other conditions "were usually not very happy about it. They had distress or...in some way the condition interfered with their overall functioning."
Spitzer continues, "If you accepted what the activists said, clearly here were homosexuals who were not distressed by being homosexual. Instead, they might be distressed by how people reacted to their being gay."
Cure-therapists, mostly psychoanalysts such as Irving Bieber and the zealously homophobic Charles Socarides (whose son is openly gay), were furious and began gathering signatures demanding a referendum to overturn the board's decision. Edward Hanin recalls, "The controversy was led by people who essentially said this was politics intruding into science. It wasn't. The APA Board of Trustees had reviewed very carefully the evidence related to homosexuality."
Judd Marmor agrees: "The fact is that the decision to remove homosexuality...was not based on gay political pressure but on scientific correctness and only after a full year of exploratory hearings and study of the issue. The so-called 'politics' surrounding the decision was subsequently instilled into the process by opponents."
Robert Jean Campbell comments, "I thought the only reason they were worried was that they wouldn't have any patients if this went through. People would no longer go to them for something that was no longer a disease."
I would take the word of those who were there, rather than that of a reseracher-reporter, any day.Dr. John Fryer, M.D., a psychiatrist who in 1972 spoke at a psychiatry panel on homosexuality, appearing as “Dr. H. Anonymous,” disguising his true physical identity—and even his voice. In those days, to come out as a gay psychiatrist meant a ruined career.
Ergo, it may be a subliminal choice depending upon circumstances, or a blatant choice.
If you can choose to be gay, then you're already gay. I'm not turned on by men. I couldn't choose to be turned on by men. That's because I'm heterosexual. If you have the choice to be turned on by men, then you're already bi or gay.
I'm sure gays couldn't decide to stop being gay because I couldn't decide to stop being heterosexual. If it's different for you, then you're bi, and not everyone else is. Don't assume that what's a simple matter of choice for you is also a simple matter of choice for others.
I agree with your post precisely. I meant that for instance, a small child is molested by a same sex pedophile repeatedly and after a while, perhaps as a subliminal defense mechanism, enjoys the experience and becomes blueprinted with that sexual behavior for the rest of the child's life. Certainly not truly a choice, but self defense for survival or sanity. Just one example with a predictable result.
Do you have any reliable evidence of that? It makes more sense that homosexuality itself could actually increase the chance of abuse.I agree with your post precisely. I meant that for instance, a small child is molested by a same sex pedophile repeatedly and after a while, perhaps as a subliminal defense mechanism, enjoys the experience and becomes blueprinted with that sexual behavior for the rest of the child's life. Certainly not truly a choice, but self defense for survival or sanity. Just one example with a predictable result.
There's nothing at all to back up the idea that such a scenario is the basis of homosexuality for any number of people. However, there are a number of empirical studies that show strong correlations between various genetic traits, or epigenetic traits, and male homosexuality. The jury is still out on the cause, but all evidence suggests that there are genetic influences, particularly in the mother, that result in greatly increased likelihood of homosexuality in men.
The most compelling study so far shows certain genetic traits in the mother that increase her likelihood of having gay sons, but increase her likelihood of having more children by an amount that offsets the selection cost of the homosexual son. In other words, it's an over-all benefit to procreation, so it's been selected for.
Why is it that most of these studies seem to concentrate on homosexual men and not homosexuality in general? Or at least most of the ones cited here on DP?
Why is it that most of these studies seem to concentrate on homosexual men and not homosexuality in general? Or at least most of the ones cited here on DP?
Nobody really cares about homosexual women. straight men always think homosexual women are hot. you got me as to why.
If you check my post you will find that I specified "most complex organisms"_Most organisms in the world don't need that
Definitely "NOT" by any psychological standards based on Political Correctness_Here's the problem with your post, Empirica. Homosexuality has been proven to NOT be a psychological disorder.
+If you check my post you will find that I specified "most complex organisms"_
The key word being "complex"_
Definitely "NOT" by any psychological standards based on Political Correctness_
But according to biology, nature and common sense; same sex sex is obviously a psychological disorder_
In fact, a sexual attraction to anything incompatible for reproduction is a psychological disorder_
Excluding masturbation which is more of a self-release by one's self than a sexual attraction to one's self_
And providing one is fantasizing about the opposite sex rather than the same sex or a farm animal_ :giggle1:
Seriously Turtledude; this is what you gleaned from my post?! :ytthat's really stupid. using your definition, using a condom or taking the pill is a psychological disorder.
fear of gays appears to be a psychological disorder IMHO
Seriously Turtledude; this is what you gleaned from my post?! :yt
Or did you understand it completely and simply grasping at straws for lack of argument?!
+If you check my post you will find that I specified "most complex organisms"_
The key word being "complex"_
Definitely "NOT" by any psychological standards based on Political Correctness_
But according to biology, nature and common sense; same sex sex is obviously a psychological disorder_
In fact, a sexual attraction to anything incompatible for reproduction is a psychological disorder_
Excluding masturbation which is more of a self-release by one's self than a sexual attraction to one's self_
And providing one is fantasizing about the opposite sex rather than the same sex or a farm animal_ :giggle1:
You're still grasping Turtle_the psychological disorder attack on gays has gone the way of "the sun revolves around the earth" nonsense
Well of course it is___all Politically Incorrect realities appear "stupid" to liberals_That really s a stupid comment.
You're still grasping Turtle_
Think rationally and intelligently for a moment (like a Vulcan) and it just might come to you_
Well of course it is___all Politically Incorrect realities appear "stupid" to liberals_
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