Is Gun Control Such a Bad Idea?

[worksforpigs]

No evidence again. Shocker. LOL

You need to stop trying to deflect to other people the precise moment you cannot defend your position. It's intellectually dishonest and massively immature.

 

[Nap]

How about no license needed to participate in your right? I'm here, typing away, using my 1A rights and all without a license.

While I agree with you in principle, I am also trying to be realistic. It would be hard enough to get people that are largely ignorant about guns and violence in to even agree with my proposal much less a truly liberal version of simply allowing people unrestrained access to the Right to bear arms.

 

[vegas giants]

How about no license needed to participate in your right? I'm here, typing away, using my 1A rights and all without a license.

We already license the right to bear arms in some jurisdictions

 

[vegas giants]

You need to stop trying to deflect to other people the precise moment you cannot defend your position. It's intellectually dishonest and massively immature.

Or he could just provide some evidence. LOL

 

[TurtleDude]

We already license the right to bear arms in some jurisdictions

and under McDonald, some of those will probably remain and some with fall.

 

[vegas giants]

and under McDonald, some of those will probably remain and some with fall.

Predictions!!! Currently we license the right to bear arms and that has not changed

 

[TurtleDude]

Predictions!!! Currently we license the right to bear arms and that has not changed

why don't you give us a scholarly argument on what will remain and what might be struck down and base it on the current supreme court case law

 

[vegas giants]

why don't you give us a scholarly argument on what will remain and what might be struck down and base it on the current supreme court case law

Why don't you? You have made a claim that some laws will be struck down based on Mcdonald. Please present a scholarly argument for such a claim with other precedent cases and verifiable references.

Watch this folks. LOL

 

[TurtleDude]

Why don't you? You have made a claim that some laws will be struck down based on Mcdonald. Please present a scholarly argument for such a claim with other precedent cases and verifiable references.

Watch this folks. LOL

why aren't you ever able to back up your silly claims?

 

[vegas giants]

why aren't you ever able to back up your silly claims?

There it is folks. He NEVER has to back up a claim!!!! LOL

 

[Fraggle Rock]

I love Canada's approach if you want a gun you have to get your parents approval and your wife's and or your ex-wifes. This would stop nearly all of the shootings that I have seen recently.

 

[Fishking]

We already license the right to bear arms in some jurisdictions

Right...I'm saying that's a violation of the Constitution.

 

[vegas giants]

Right...I'm saying that's a violation of the Constitution.

Thanks for your opinion

 

[Absentglare]

how many legally owned machine guns possessed by private citizens have been stolen? we know none have been used in decades for violent crimes. we also know that the sponsor of the ban never produced any evidence suggesting that was a problem. so you support banning stuff on the secondary hope that by banning them it will prevent criminals from stealing them and thus that impacts criminals. which is incredibly dishonest since the law doesn't impact criminals in terms of what the law does to them.

Great, the gun control law was overwhelmingly successful. Not only are machine guns virtually never used in the commission of a crime, but they're also still used by a small number of enthusiasts.

 

[Absentglare]

that just shows who stupid your arguments are.

I gladly accept the forfeit implied by your inability to rebut any of that.

 

[Rucker61]

Great, the gun control law was overwhelmingly successful. Not only are machine guns virtually never used in the commission of a crime, but they're also still used by a small number of enthusiasts.

So why was the Hughes Amendment necessary. And that's legally owned machine guns. Unregistered ones are still used by criminals.

 

[TurtleDude]

I gladly accept the forfeit implied by your inability to rebut any of that.

you are confused. your puny arguments have been destroyed many times over

 

[Northern Light]

Show me an idea that would actually be effective without unduly infringing on the law abiding, and I'll listen. Haven't heard one yet.

Gun control is incompatible with the Second Amendment, apparently.

 

[vegas giants]

Gun control is incompatible with the Second Amendment, apparently.

And yet we already have gun control

 

[Northern Light]

And yet we already have gun control

Yup

....

 

[TurtleDude]

Gun control is incompatible with the Second Amendment, apparently.

laws that punish people for harming others with guns don't violate the second amendment. Laws that prevent you from shooting firearms within city limits or in public parks don't either. Laws that prevent you from owning certain firearms etc do violate the second amendment

 

[Absentglare]

So why was the Hughes Amendment necessary. And that's legally owned machine guns. Unregistered ones are still used by criminals.

TD just admitted that it has been perfectly effective at preventing abuse.

you are confused. your puny arguments have been destroyed many times over

You are incorrect. If you had a counter-argument, you could articulate it. Your refusal to do so speaks for itself.

 

[TurtleDude]

TD just admitted that it has been perfectly effective at preventing abuse.



You are incorrect. If you had a counter-argument, you could articulate it. Your refusal to do so speaks for itself.

you're lying

if the NFA was a so good at stopping crime why did liberals ban the guns?

 

[Fishking]

Thanks for your opinion

You're welcome.

 

[Absentglare]

you're lying

if the NFA was a so good at stopping crime why did liberals ban the guns?

That's not a legitimate assessment of my argument.