Is Fox News a news station?

[marke]

How does bs contribute to debate?

I know, right? Even so we deal with the nonsense as others keep bringing it up.

 

[noonereal]

I'm not understanding your Florida is at fault reference.

Will you explain?

Trumps words are what spurred the people on the beaches and resorts like Disney and MGM to not take this seriously.

The crowds will now head home, to all parts of the country become sick while infecting, infecting, infecting.

 

[Mr Merble]

Trumps words are what spurred the people on the beaches and resorts like Disney and MGM to not take this seriously.

The crowds will now head home, to all parts of the country become sick while infecting, infecting, infecting.

still not sure why you hold Florida at fault - the slow response is clearly all trump

 

[Mr Merble]

I know, right? Even so we deal with the nonsense as others keep bringing it up.

I was referring to your bs.

 

[usaf77]

I'd say that since they are blowing away the fake news outlets, especially MSNBC and CNN in rating then yes they are a news station.

But troll away anyway.

 

[Mr Merble]

I'd say that since they are blowing away the fake news outlets, especially MSNBC and CNN in rating then yes they are a news station.

But troll away anyway.

really, you base the reliability of content on popularity. it's no wonder that you had to join your job.

 

[noonereal]

still not sure why you hold Florida at fault - the slow response is clearly all trump

the Governor should have closed things down before yesterday

btw, i am blaming the people that were in Florida in the crowds and trump for providing them the "cover"

 

[rickc]

I'd say that since they are blowing away the fake news outlets, especially MSNBC and CNN in rating then yes they are a news station.

But troll away anyway.

Really quite humorous

Faux certainly has a following. A very solid base. The same people who elected trump!

Now why is that? Very simple. Faux tells these people what.they want.to hear. They feed their hatrid bigotry and fear. In so.doing they establish creditability with their audience. At this point they believe whatever.the comentators tell them. Especially if it goes against what creditable news.networks are reporting.

Rush Limbaugh invented the model and Trump used it.to reach the white house.

Faux has even gone so far as to go through the court system to prove that.they could.knowingly lie and call it news.

 

[washunut]

Really quite humorous

Faux certainly has a following. A very solid base. The same people who elected trump!

Now why is that? Very simple. Faux tells these people what.they want.to hear. They feed their hatrid bigotry and fear. In so.doing they establish creditability with their audience. At this point they believe whatever.the comentators tell them. Especially if it goes against what creditable news.networks are reporting.

Rush Limbaugh invented the model and Trump used it.to reach the white house.

Faux has even gone so far as to go through the court system to prove that.they could.knowingly lie and call it news.

While I think that FOX stood out as an outlier years ago that is now history. The only news station in my mind historically has been CNN. CNN is now at least as bad as FOX. Can anyone point to anyone on CNN such as Cavuto or Wallace? Would you put Lemon or Tapper in their league of being fair-minded?

 

[Mr Merble]

the Governor should have closed things down before yesterday

btw, i am blaming the people that were in Florida in the crowds and trump for providing them the "cover"

he's a repug and I don't agree with much of anything he says, but he has been on top of this way more than trump.

beaches need to stay open in my opinion. cdc says get fresh air, and lots of florida counties are closing beaches. I'm supposed to practice social distancing when shopping and other needs but not allowed to do the same on a nearly deserted beach. Maybe I just don't understand - yet.

and I don't know who was responsible for unloading 3,877 cruise ship passengers after at least one tested positive. Yes, they mostly all went to the airport and flew home. I believe it would be federal responsibility, but not sure - probable state docks and federal Customs

 

[noonereal]

he's a repug and I don't agree with much of anything he says, but he has been on top of this way more than trump.

beaches need to stay open in my opinion. cdc says get fresh air, and lots of florida counties are closing beaches. I'm supposed to practice social distancing when shopping and other needs but not allowed to do the same on a nearly deserted beach. Maybe I just don't understand - yet.

and I don't know who was responsible for unloading 3,877 cruise ship passengers after at least one tested positive. Yes, they mostly all went to the airport and flew home. I believe it would be federal responsibility, but not sure - probable state docks and federal Customs

the beaches were closed because people were not voluntarily practicing social distancing

 

[Mr Merble]

the beaches were closed because people were not voluntarily practicing social distancing

but not the grocery store or the post office


what would have been wrong with ticketing people in groups. the cops are already there to handle the No Glass rules during the huge crowds at spring break.

and btw - I walk every morning on the federal National Seashore and neither the state or the county can stop me. I only walk, don't touch anything in the parking lot and don't come within 10 feet of anyone other than family.

I only see your point if we start shutting down all outside activities. I hope that you have somewhere to walk and get fresh air.

 

[ultmd]

I noticed absent from your diatribe is what you wanted done that hasn't been.

LOL, I'm trying to be nice to you; but what you SHOULD have noticed in my previous response to you was how I graciously ignored the LIE you told about why one person (i.e. Biden) called Trump a "xenophobe". It had NOTHING to do with the travel ban on China (and/or Iran). It was ENTIRELY because of Trump's insistence on labeling the COVID-19 virus the "China virus". So either you lied, or you are severely misinformed by the FauxNews that you digest. That's what I "notice" about my previous remarks.

My questions, then (and now) were pretty clear...and neither you, nor any other Trump acolyte in this thread, has answered them.


1. Do you honestly believe that downplaying the issue for 10+ weeks will not be responsible for more deaths over the next several months?

2. Is there ANY rational argument to back that up?

I'm happy to go over some of what could/should have been done...what any competent President would have done...once my initial questions are answered.

 

[ultmd]

America reacted to the emerging coronavirus more quickly than it reacted to previous virus pandemics

That's a lie, of course. I know you don't understand it, because you got it from Trump...or Hannity...or some other FauxNews propaganda source. But it's an absolute lie, nonetheless.

For example, the most recent pandemic (i.e. the H1N1 flu pandemic of 2009) originated in North America, not overseas. So the popular Trump/Hannity/FauxNews argument that Obama never closed the borders or issued any travel bans, was baseless. Secondly, H1N1 had a case mortality rate of about .02%, only slighly higher than the seasonal flu mortality rate. COVID-19 has mortality rate of about 3.5% (i.e. 35X the seasonal flu mortality rate, and about 18X the mortality rate of H1N1). Thirdly, there was no time to prepare and react to H1N1, because it started HERE. That pandemic began here and spread around the world quickly. That's a complete different scenario than COVID-19, which WHO declared a breakout epidemic in China last December. Trump did absolutely nothing for a month, and virtually nothing for another 6 weeks, until FINALLY changing his tune less than a week ago.

yet democrats still try to capitalize on the troubles to try to convince Americans it is Trump's fault.

I could go on, but if you don't understand how Trump's dithering (from late Dec '19 until mid-March '20) is not going to result in more American lives lost to this pandemic...you just might be a blind deologue, marke. If there is any political gain, or loss to be made from this, Trump has no one to blame but himself. He FIRED the entire U.S. Pandemic Response Team shortly after taking office...simply because Obama created it (after the H1N1 pandemic, btw), for Pete's sake. Trump's list of failures is so long at this point, only the blind and the brainwashed refuse to acknowledge it.

Why? Because they want back in control of the WH so they can get their quid pro quo pay to play influence peddling back to bringing them in billions for personal profit.

:lamo
That's funny stuff, coming from an acolyte of the single most corrupt and incompetent presidency in history.

Clearly, corruption (like Budget Deficits, the National Debt, "Big Government" and "Socialism") doesn't bother you people one bit...until a Democrat is in office.

 

[noonereal]

I only see your point if we start shutting down all outside activities. I hope that you have somewhere to walk and get fresh air.

well, they will be shut soon so...

 

[Mr Merble]

well, they will be shut soon so...

So, you're saying that everyone will be confined inside their homes. Not only will that not work, that's not what the CDC says to do.

 

[Fishking]

Not an alarming rate, huh? Tell me, what rate would that be?

Fact Check: The death toll is at 250 and counting. But 2 months into a pandemic, that's hardly the point.

We are in an exponential curve. Do you know what that means?...why that is so significant?

Of course you don't. If you can't answer my questions, you really should stop embarrassing yourself.

*215 at this point, previously it was less. Your fact-checking sucks. So far as what rate I'd worry about it...I'll say that when it hits numbers that are beyond what we see all the time from other mundane sources, like the flu, stairs, drowning in pools, ect.

Coronavirus news and live udpates: Deaths from Covid-19 top 10,000 globally - CNN

"So far, 215 people have died." <--as of 16 min ago.

CLEARLY, you don't agree with much of what is to be gleaned from the legitimate news sources. You're a fake-newser.

A nonsense statement trying to cover up for the fact that you made an idiotic assumption, got called on it, and have been struggling to make up for it ever since.

:lamo
You're deflecting...and doing a rather poor job at it.

So it's clear to me now that (as I suspected) you have no basis for your arguments, other than personal opinions. Like most conservatives these days, you have ignorant opinions that you feel entitled to declare "facts". But when challenged to back them up, you flail.

I have asked you to post a cogent argument in support of your fake-news inspired "nothingburger" remarks. To date, that seems to amount to your personal, uneducated "analysis" of the current death toll during a pandemic that is 2 months into its infancy. If that's not a manifesto of fake-news ignorance, I don't know what is.

I've provided you your answer, multiple times. You can find the answer in my first common above in this quoted message. It's not hard to understand this, yet you continue to struggle. I'm not shocked.

 

[upsideguy]

I am here to contribute and debate. You will not scare me off.

I am not trying to scare you off.... I am just asking that you actually contribute.

 

[marke]

That's a lie, of course. I know you don't understand it, because you got it from Trump...or Hannity...or some other FauxNews propaganda source. But it's an absolute lie, nonetheless.

For example, the most recent pandemic (i.e. the H1N1 flu pandemic of 2009) originated in North America, not overseas. So the popular Trump/Hannity/FauxNews argument that Obama never closed the borders or issued any travel bans, was baseless. Secondly, H1N1 had a case mortality rate of about .02%, only slighly higher than the seasonal flu mortality rate. COVID-19 has mortality rate of about 3.5% (i.e. 35X the seasonal flu mortality rate, and about 18X the mortality rate of H1N1). Thirdly, there was no time to prepare and react to H1N1, because it started HERE. That pandemic began here and spread around the world quickly. That's a complete different scenario than COVID-19, which WHO declared a breakout epidemic in China last December. Trump did absolutely nothing for a month, and virtually nothing for another 6 weeks, until FINALLY changing his tune less than a week ago.

Democrat governors around the country have shut down schools and restaurants and other venues but not before Trump made the first moves. Trump was first and the democrats came in second, just like in 2016 and, hopefully, in 2020.

 

[noonereal]

So, you're saying that everyone will be confined inside their homes. Not only will that not work, that's not what the CDC says to do.

don't post to troll

you know darned well that outside activity is limited to individual activities

now cut the crap

 

[noonereal]

I am not trying to scare you off.... I am just asking that you actually contribute.

rotflmao.... good luck with that

 

[upsideguy]

rotflmao.... good luck with that

Yep, blood from stone. It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than to get intelligent, fact-based posts from some.

 

[JackA]

Fox News is a Trump propaganda station thinly disguised as news, or was until the disguise disappeared entirely a few days ago. Fox had been dutifully downplaying the virus, parroting the Trump "hoax" theme. Then the Trump administration made an about face and decided it needed to get serious. Assigned members of the administration called Fox and instructed them to make the change. Next day Fox did so. We've been hearing about the oh so serious coronavirus from Fox ever since.

That is Fox in a nutshell.

 

[trouble13]

He might have focused on test kits and ventilators and not told Americans it was under control and all be over with the warm weather. He cannot be relied upon to be honest with the American people, and certainly not be relied upon to bring any sort of comfort or unity to the country. It's all about him.

Even now, still, when he opens his mouth, with the BS he's spewing, he is threatening lives.

Uh-huh
I musta missed the bill calling for more test kits and ventalators that he vetoed.

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[trouble13]

LOL, I'm trying to be nice to you; but what you SHOULD have noticed in my previous response to you was how I graciously ignored the LIE you told about why one person (i.e. Biden) called Trump a "xenophobe". It had NOTHING to do with the travel ban on China (and/or Iran). It was ENTIRELY because of Trump's insistence on labeling the COVID-19 virus the "China virus". So either you lied, or you are severely misinformed by the FauxNews that you digest. That's what I "notice" about my previous remarks.

My questions, then (and now) were pretty clear...and neither you, nor any other Trump acolyte in this thread, has answered them.


1. Do you honestly believe that downplaying the issue for 10+ weeks will not be responsible for more deaths over the next several months?

2. Is there ANY rational argument to back that up?

I'm happy to go over some of what could/should have been done...what any competent President would have done...once my initial questions are answered.

1. If you think going above and beyond what the WHO was recommending is downplaying, I would like to know what if anything Trump could of done that you would have deemed adequate?

2. Why do you expect a rational argument to counter your irrational question, but I gave you 1 anyhow. You're welcome.

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