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Is faith a pathway to truth?

Is faith a reliable pathway to truth?

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Answer, explain and discuss.

Faith can be used to believe in literally anything. Ghost, goblins, etc.
For deities, we have more than enough evidence that some people's faith has to be wrong since many of the god concepts are mutually exclusive.
There are thousands of deities and faith can lead you to believe in any one or even more than one of them. If only one deity concept is correct, there is a 1 in several thousand chance of picking the 'right' one.

If faith gives you thousand to one odds of picking the right deity, if that is even possible, then I would say faith is not a reliable pathway to truth.
 
RogueWarrior said:
Answer, explain and discuss.

Faith can be used to believe in literally anything. Ghost, goblins, etc.
For deities, we have more than enough evidence that some people's faith has to be wrong since many of the god concepts are mutually exclusive.
There are thousands of deities and faith can lead you to believe in any one or even more than one of them. If only one deity concept is correct, there is a 1 in several thousand chance of picking the 'right' one.

If faith gives you thousand to one odds of picking the right deity, if that is even possible, then I would say faith is not a reliable pathway to truth.
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Luckily the right Deity chose me to be Its follower. I am so sorry to hear It didn't elevate you. ;)
 
No, faith ties you to what you choose to believe, it doesn't lead you to conclusions based on facts and evidence. Ask any person who relies on faith why they're so convinced and they'll give you an anecdotal story about how they "feel" it's right. With 7 billion individuals with different feelings and world views this just ends up locking people into 7 billion different subjective realities.

If you really want to be a seeker of truth you have to get rid of the idea of faith - believing something blindly because you choose to - and start asking hard questions and follow the evidence where it leads.
 
It depends on what you want to see as truth.

It it is the real world, the set of things that has happened, then no, faith is not the way to go.

If it is TRUTH!!!! GOD'S TRUTH!!! Then looking at what actually happens is not going to fit in.
 
I honestly don't know if the average religious person in the west cares about the truth any more, so much as the traditions and the easier path of labeling themselves as religious
 
joG said:
Luckily the right Deity chose me to be Its follower. I am so sorry to hear It didn't elevate you. ;)
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And there you have it. A wonderful example of how faith works.

It does not require anything messy such as logic, intelligence or facts. It is just the ability to make a silly statement without realising how foolish it sounds.
 
soylentgreen said:
And there you have it. A wonderful example of how faith works.

It does not require anything messy such as logic, intelligence or facts. It is just the ability to make a silly statement without realising how foolish it sounds.
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Got it in one, my God! Did you realize it? ;)
 
joG said:
Got it in one, my God! Did you realize it? ;)
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Of course i did. It is what i like about faith so much.
I hope you do not think faith is merely the gift given to a theist. Even an atheist like myself has faith.

In my youth i loved to climb cliffs without any safety equipment, free hand. All i had was my faith that i would not fall, and a good grip.
 
Sto-o-o-o-pid Faith is faith and truth is fact
 
soylentgreen said:
Of course i did. It is what i like about faith so much.
I hope you do not think faith is merely the gift given to a theist. Even an atheist like myself has faith.

In my youth i loved to climb cliffs without any safety equipment, free hand. All i had was my faith that i would not fall, and a good grip.
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So did you fall? Is there any hope of recovery?
 
Before I could even hope to answer this question, I need to know in what way are you using the word 'truth'. Are you talking about facts, or are you talking about metaphysical moral and ethical truths??
 
RAMOSS said:
Before I could even hope to answer this question, I need to know in what way are you using the word 'truth'. Are you talking about facts, or are you talking about metaphysical moral and ethical truths??
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I don't think any definition I would offer would substantially change your answer.
 
What would be the mechanism or process through which faith would lead you to the "truth"? Or a supportable assertion about something? Sorry for not phrasing the question very well.
 
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