Is Facebook illegal?

[Junzhuo Gu]

Is Facebook illegal?
In what ways did I violate the rules? Facebook didn't tell me what the specific violation was, nor did Facebook verify whether I was actually violated. But Facebook restricts my use rights. In doing so, Facebook is suspected of illegally limiting my right to free speech.

 

[Felis Leo]

Is Facebook illegal?
In what ways did I violate the rules? Facebook didn't tell me what the specific violation was, nor did Facebook verify whether I was actually violated. But Facebook restricts my use rights. In doing so, Facebook is suspected of illegally limiting my right to free speech.

What on Earth are you referring to?

 

[Digger]

Is Facebook illegal?
In what ways did I violate the rules? Facebook didn't tell me what the specific violation was, nor did Facebook verify whether I was actually violated. But Facebook restricts my use rights. In doing so, Facebook is suspected of illegally limiting my right to free speech.

Are you kidding?

Facebook has no obligation to provide you a platform. The right to free speech limits the government from interfering with your right to voice your opinion. It doesn't give private companies the obligation to allow you to use their websites. What, do you want the government to step in and tell facebook what it can and cannot do with its private property? That's not very libertarian of you.

The FCC does regulate our communications, putting various restrictions mostly on broadcasting companies, like until 1987 the Fairness Doctrine. They do regulate the underbelly infrastructure of the internet, constantly wrangling over net neutrality. But as far as content the internet is more or less entirely unregulated by the FCC.

 

[Junzhuo Gu]

I arrived in the United States at the end of 2018. I recently established three political parties using Facebook to penetrate the mainland and eventually overthrow the tyranny of the CCP and restore the Republic of China. But the Facebook has been so infiltrated by the CCP very much. Facebook has restricted many useful functions to me, including I cannot add members to the open group I set up, I cannot post videos to my Facebook page from my folder, I cannot chat Send videos in groups and more. And I heard from my domestic friends that since the end of last year, mainlanders can no longer register Facebook accounts with mainland mobile numbers.

 

[Fledermaus]

Is Facebook illegal?
In what ways did I violate the rules? Facebook didn't tell me what the specific violation was, nor did Facebook verify whether I was actually violated. But Facebook restricts my use rights. In doing so, Facebook is suspected of illegally limiting my right to free speech.

How would we know?

We don't know what you wrote.

As to right to free speech.

The government cant restrict it. Facebook isn't the government.

 

[beefheart]

Is Facebook illegal?
In what ways did I violate the rules? Facebook didn't tell me what the specific violation was, nor did Facebook verify whether I was actually violated. But Facebook restricts my use rights. In doing so, Facebook is suspected of illegally limiting my right to free speech.

Who the hell cares?

Go whine on FB.

Oh, and you are a Libertarian....so you are all for private industry not being regulated.....until you get butthurt.:lamo

 

[Fledermaus]

I arrived in the United States at the end of 2018. I recently established three political parties using Facebook to penetrate the mainland and eventually overthrow the tyranny of the CCP and restore the Republic of China. But the Facebook has been so infiltrated by the CCP very much. Facebook has restricted many useful functions to me, including I cannot add members to the open group I set up, I cannot post videos to my Facebook page from my folder, I cannot chat Send videos in groups and more. And I heard from my domestic friends that since the end of last year, mainlanders can no longer register Facebook accounts with mainland mobile numbers.

Start your own website.

 

[Junzhuo Gu]

Are you kidding?

Facebook has no obligation to provide you a platform. The right to free speech limits the government from interfering with your right to voice your opinion. It doesn't give private companies the obligation to allow you to use their websites. What, do you want the government to step in and tell facebook what it can and cannot do with its private property? That's not very libertarian of you.

The FCC does regulate our communications, putting various restrictions mostly on broadcasting companies, like until 1987 the Fairness Doctrine. They do regulate the underbelly infrastructure of the internet, constantly wrangling over net neutrality. But as far as content the internet is more or less entirely unregulated by the FCC.

But Facebook is actually providing a public speech platform. This is not a personal private space, but a public speech platform. Is my right to freedom of speech not protected on such an open media platform? Does my right to freedom of speech only ensure that I am not violated by the government, and cannot protect me from being violated by private companies? Should a media platform created by a private company be public opinion oriented? Don't Facebook ensure that the right to freedom of speech protected by the US Constitution is enforced?

 

[Junzhuo Gu]

Start your own website.

Most persons have no the capacity to create a Widely accepted website

 

[Fledermaus]

But Facebook is actually providing a public speech platform. This is not a personal private space, but a public speech platform. Is my right to freedom of speech not protected on such an open media platform? Does my right to freedom of speech only ensure that I am not violated by the government, and cannot protect me from being violated by private companies? Should a media platform created by a private company be public opinion oriented? Don't Facebook ensure that the right to freedom of speech protected by the US Constitution is enforced?

Facebook isn't the government. They have no obligation to post anything.

Your freedom of speech isn't being violated.

Try getting your own website.

 

[Fledermaus]

Most persons have no the capacity to create a Widely accepted website

You are wanting to start a revolution and you can't pay for a website?

CLUE : Create a website and tell your friends on Facebook to visit it.

 

[Junzhuo Gu]

Facebook isn't the government. They have no obligation to post anything.

Your freedom of speech isn't being violated.

Try getting your own website.

But Facebook is objectively pushing the comments of some people, while at the same time trying to limit the speech of some people. I don't have the ability to set up a valuable personal website. I believe many people are like me.

 

[eohrnberger]

Is Facebook illegal?
In what ways did I violate the rules? Facebook didn't tell me what the specific violation was, nor did Facebook verify whether I was actually violated. But Facebook restricts my use rights. In doing so, Facebook is suspected of illegally limiting my right to free speech.

Facebook has published ambiguous 'rules' about their user's posts. They are written in such a fashion that you could drive a Mack truck through them, if it's the 'right' color.

This is one of things that those who have been banned complain about, this lack of specificity, because when Facebook then takes actions on what amounts to be arbitrary interpretation of a Facebook user's post, the user, of course, feels singled out, and many have legitimate grievances on this.

All that being said, Facebook is a private company and has no obligation to provide it's users any sort of social media platform or access to their social media platform, nor does it really need to adhere to the same Constitutional, legislative or judicial restrictions on free speech by which the government is required to adhere to.

Sure, users who are banned for their posts can whine and complain, and they probably do have case, but it isn't a case that can be 'made' in the court of law. At best it's a case that could be made in the public square.

 

[Junzhuo Gu]

Facebook has published ambiguous 'rules' about their user's posts. They are written in such a fashion that you could drive a Mack truck through them, if it's the 'right' color.

This is one of things that those who have been banned complain about, this lack of specificity, because when Facebook then takes actions on what amounts to be arbitrary interpretation of a Facebook user's post, the user, of course, feels singled out, and many have legitimate grievances on this.

All that being said, Facebook is a private company and has no obligation to provide it's users any sort of social media platform or access to their social media platform, nor does it really need to adhere to the same Constitutional, legislative or judicial restrictions on free speech by which the government is required to adhere to.

Sure, users who are banned for their posts can whine and complain, and they probably do have case, but it isn't a case that can be 'made' in the court of law. At best it's a case that could be made in the public square.

The social media set up by Facebook is a public service provided by the Facebook company to the society. It is open to all people. Facebook unreasonably restricts some people from using the services provided by Facebook, which should be unconstitutional.

 

[Digger]

The social media set up by Facebook is a public service provided by the Facebook company to the society. It is open to all people. Facebook unreasonably restricts some people from using the services provided by Facebook, which should be unconstitutional.

No. Like we've already explained, the constitution restricts the government and only the government. Facebook is not the government. There are laws that govern how people and companies can act. For instance if you were standing in a park on the soap box and someone hit you, they can't do that because it's against the law. If the FCC decided to, they could force facebook to let you use their website. But internet content is very lightly regulated. Facebook is so far from breaking any laws it's not even funny.

I despise facebook. I almost never use it, and when I do I always come away disgusted. They did you a favor.

 

[Junzhuo Gu]

Facebook isn't the government. They have no obligation to post anything.

Your freedom of speech isn't being violated.

Try getting your own website.

And according to this logic, my WeChat account was completely legally blocked, not a serious violation of freedom of speech. And according to you, I should set up a company similar to WeChat, if I want to ensure my right to freedom of speech.

 

[TurtleDude]

Facebook has published ambiguous 'rules' about their user's posts. They are written in such a fashion that you could drive a Mack truck through them, if it's the 'right' color.

This is one of things that those who have been banned complain about, this lack of specificity, because when Facebook then takes actions on what amounts to be arbitrary interpretation of a Facebook user's post, the user, of course, feels singled out, and many have legitimate grievances on this.

All that being said, Facebook is a private company and has no obligation to provide it's users any sort of social media platform or access to their social media platform, nor does it really need to adhere to the same Constitutional, legislative or judicial restrictions on free speech by which the government is required to adhere to.

Sure, users who are banned for their posts can whine and complain, and they probably do have case, but it isn't a case that can be 'made' in the court of law. At best it's a case that could be made in the public square.

this,

 

[Dragonfly]

But Facebook restricts my use rights.

Dude, forget Facebook.

You need to go to Myspace.
It's where all the hip, cool, and rebellious types frequent.

Check it out.

 

[Fledermaus]

And according to this logic, my WeChat account was completely legally blocked, not a serious violation of freedom of speech. And according to you, I should set up a company similar to WeChat, if I want to ensure my right to freedom of speech.

You asked if YouTube is "illegal".

It isn't.

I gave you one option.

Take it or leave it.

 

[Fledermaus]

But Facebook is objectively pushing the comments of some people, while at the same time trying to limit the speech of some people. I don't have the ability to set up a valuable personal website. I believe many people are like me.

So what?

Their circus. Their monkeys.

You want to start a revolution and you can't afford a "valuable" website?

You can't be serious.

 

[Helix]

Mama say Facebook is the debbill.

 

[Daisy]

Is Facebook illegal?
In what ways did I violate the rules? Facebook didn't tell me what the specific violation was, nor did Facebook verify whether I was actually violated. But Facebook restricts my use rights. In doing so, Facebook is suspected of illegally limiting my right to free speech.

Sounds like a pp...:2razz:

 

[Sampson Simpson]

Is Facebook illegal?
In what ways did I violate the rules? Facebook didn't tell me what the specific violation was, nor did Facebook verify whether I was actually violated. But Facebook restricts my use rights. In doing so, Facebook is suspected of illegally limiting my right to free speech.

Nothing to do wiht free speech. You weren't arrested, were you? Nobody seems to have a clue what free speech actually is.

And what it isn't is a free for all to people to be assholes, and have zero ramifications for that

 

[Junzhuo Gu]

Nothing to do wiht free speech. You weren't arrested, were you? Nobody seems to have a clue what free speech actually is.

And what it isn't is a free for all to people to be assholes, and have zero ramifications for that

It is a surprise for me that your understanding to free speech.

 

[ecofarm]

This thread is beautiful. An immigrant comes to America looking for a better life and freedom and learns, thanks to the caring heart of a debate forum, what freedom of speech really means. It warms the heart.