empireofreason
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I don't see democracy as the problem at all. I see the combination of these three things, rational ignorance, rational irrationality and the ability of artificial persons to lobby our govt, as the problem. It's not so much democracy as it is the system by which we implement it.
I think the only issue is a lack of term limits. The possibility of life-time membership in a control center for the entire country means that politicians spend as much time campaigning as actually working. Limit them to two terms or one term or whatever and maybe they'll do a bit more working during their time in office.
A democracy cannot exist as a permanent form of government. It can only exist until the voters discover that they can vote themselves largesse from the public treasury. From that moment on, the majority always votes for the candidates promising the most benefits the public treasury with the result that a democracy always collapses over lousy fiscal policy, always followed by a dictatorship.
Many problems our nation faces could span more than one term to fix and may need a specific candidate that could provide that specialty. I am not an expert, possibly most issues can be fixed in one term. Not sure. But, if Democracy is not the problem and terms limits is, then wouldn't it make more sense for the most popular stands on issues determine the politician's job vs. the politician having too much freedom over America's agenda. Perhaps, campaigning would be unnecessary if the people's agenda was clear. Perhaps we could have two elections, one to set the major issues on the agenda and their relative priority, then pick the candidate who convinces us they will handle that job.
I'm not really sure if Democracy is the problem. I do think however there is a small bit of truth to this quote:
I'm not really sure if Democracy is the problem. I do think however there is a small bit of truth to this quote:
American is in a lot of trouble economically right now and Democracy may actually be the barrier to getting things back on track.
Based upon how you see America's situation, on scale from 1 to 10, how would you rate Democracy being an interference with America's ability to get back on track, where 1 means Democracy has absolutely no interference with solving the problems, 10 means it interferes absolutely with problem solving.
I think the only issue is a lack of term limits. The possibility of life-time membership in a control center for the entire country means that politicians spend as much time campaigning as actually working. Limit them to two terms or one term or whatever and maybe they'll do a bit more working during their time in office.
American is in a lot of trouble economically right now and Democracy may actually be the barrier to getting things back on track.
Based upon how you see America's situation, on scale from 1 to 10, how would you rate Democracy being an interference with America's ability to get back on track, where 1 means Democracy has absolutely no interference with solving the problems, 10 means it interferes absolutely with problem solving.
Far from perfect, but one that I support over the alternative, a dictatorship. :sun
I support term limits only for executive branches (the President, a governorship, etc.) but with regards to the legislature I support age limits instead.
I think having people elected multiple times to a position can be a good thing sometimes as it promotes stability and also allows politicians to gain experience in how laws and government policies affect our country. On the other hand I think that politicians who become too old get out of touch with the median mood of our country.
The USA citizens just don't seem to be very good at picking leaders.Democracy is not so much the problem as partisanship and money, which get in the way of democracy. That and the nitwit voters who have no idea what the issues are, but vote the way the campaign commercials (paid for by that money that gets in the way) or their party tells them to.
The USA citizens just don't seem to be very good at picking leaders.
Based on recent history, wouldn't the USA be better off with a monkey and a dartboard?
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American is in a lot of trouble economically right now and Democracy may actually be the barrier to getting things back on track.
Based upon how you see America's situation, on scale from 1 to 10, how would you rate Democracy being an interference with America's ability to get back on track, where 1 means Democracy has absolutely no interference with solving the problems, 10 means it interferes absolutely with problem solving.
Democracy usually means that most bills (theoretically, solutions to problems) will be compromises. That is, where someone took a workable plan and watered it down and sprinkled it with pork and confusion.
It is frustrating sometimes... but I'm not ready to throw the baby out with the bath water just yet.
The USA citizens just don't seem to be very good at picking leaders.
The problem with compromise on spending cuts is that the two parties so far have wanted to compromise on 0.1% cut vs 0.2% cut. No one is willing to talk about real cuts.
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