Navy Pride
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independent_thinker2002 said:Nor will I face that choice, because I would rather die than go to prison.
Navy Pride said:I guess I could say the same thing and be real macho because like you I don't have to face it.......
Its obvious you have never looked death in the eye......You might change your mind.....
It's "than" that. But I might have to disagree with you there. Everything I know, is a result of a mistake I have made in the past.Originally Posted by Navy Pride
Yeah right........Billo I know your smarter then that........
Navy Pride said:your thoughts please:
realist said:I believe capital punishment is a deterrent if it's carried out right away versus being dragged on for 5-10 years. We would save a lot of tax dollars too if we executed prisoners right away.
Kandahar said:And hey, as long as we're denying people their legal rights in the interest of expediency and tax efficiency, maybe we can have death squads to execute all the poor people too.
realist said:Why does it take so long? I guess the waiting period on death row differs between each state. I just think that if your guilty without a doubt you should be executed right away. Guilty is different than poor, but obviously you feel that the death penalty is racist, which could be, not really sure?
George_Washington said:Of course killing an innocent person would be worse. But I don't think that means we shouldn't use the death penalty. If you commit horrible acts of violence and rape, I think you deserve to be put to death. I really do believe that. Whether or not it actually cuts down on crime is irrelevant; I believe the state simply has a moral duty to put to death people that are extremely sick and evil.
Deegan said:It's a little of both really. On one hand, you have the rational people, who may feel like killing someone at some point, then they think, OMG, I might get the death penalty. Then you have the irrational, sometimes insane folks, that will never even consider this. They have no conscience, and believe what they are doing is acceptable, almost like how an animal kills their prey. They live in another dimension, and this will never stop them from taking whatever they want, including human life. I think it's time to end this circus, as it only leads to lengthy trials, and expensive appeals, the lawyers see to this. I am not sure if I am correct, but I recall hearing that it costs more to kill, then it does to serve a life sentence.
TimmyBoy said:Human beings are animals and every human being in my view is capable of murder and of doing some horrendous things. It is part of the nature of every human, whether most of us like to admit it or not.
Deegan said:I agree, that's why I said that even rational folks have the thought cross their minds, but thankfully, common sense usually prevails.
Navy Pride said:No its not not but I am sure if you asked all the in mates on death row you would find out I am right for the reason I already mentioned which you conveniently ignored....
It is easy to say I would rather die then go to prison for the rest of your life until you have to face that death...........
I know what your going to say..You would rather die if it was you,Problem is your not facing that choice...............
Liberals sleep well tonight...3.500 babies were murdered in the womb today.
independent_thinker2002 said:Just out of curiosity, what makes you think that I haven't looked death in the eye?
Billo_Really said:Your talking about a mechanism that is not administered equally! You don't see something inherrently wrong with that?
independent_thinker2002 said:The state and federal govt. have a "moral" obligation to it's citizens to keep them safe. Keeping them incarcerated with the restrictions that death row inmates have does that. In Illinois a man was exonerated (DNA evidence)after being on death row for 17 YEARS. Using the phrase "moral duty" and put to death is oxymoronic in this context. It is unnecesary. Please don't tell me about the cost of incarceration. We can talk about the cost of incarcerating victimless non-violent crimes which outweighs that cost. I am not sad that Gacy is dead. He was no longer a threat before his death because there was no possibility of him getting out.
George_Washington said:Yes, I know that sometimes mistakes happen and sometimes innocent people are sent to death row. But does that really mean we should just disregard the dealth penalty altogether?
George_Washington said:Imagine if someone you loved was brutally raped and murdered in the worst way possible. Would you not want them killed? Can you honestly say you wouldn't?
Kandahar said:Umm yes. That's exactly what it means.
Well that's one reason that we don't let the family members of the victim serve on the jury or as the judge, now isn't it?
You never answered your own question sowhat do you expect? Do as I say vs. Do as I do?Navy Pride said:Get with the program liberals..........This is not a poll about whether punishment should be the death penalty or life in prison......
Prove it! I think you're making this up. If it's "documented" why haven't you provided the documentation?Navy Pride said:Spin it any way you want.......The guy executed will never rape or murder again......
Oh and one more thing...There are documented cases of criminals moving to states that don't have the death penalty to commit their crimes........Why do you think they did that?
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