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Is Antifa really "just a concept or idea", or are they composed of groups of real, flesh & blood people who sometimes riot or assault people?

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Whenever people criticize the occasionally violent, riotous behavior of Antifa, there are usually two copouts used to deny or justify their actions:

1). Deny their existence(i.e. "Antifa is just an idea").

2). Excuse their behavior by saying, "Opposing Antifa equates to supporting fascism".

You'll notice that these responses are untenable, because they contradict one other. That's because "ideas" & "concepts" cannot violently assault people or burn buildings to the ground. Only people can do that. But the claim is that Antifa isn't people, it's just a thought in people's heads..

*** I'll do a separate thread discussing whether or not Antifa's occasionally riotous and violent actions are justified***
 
Questerr said:
I for one approve of Trump’s actions. Turnabout is fair play.

If Trump can arbitrarily name Antifa to be terrorists, the next Dem president can do the same with MAGA.
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Which is why the plan is to destroy America so we can never have another real American be president. Just declare the whole of the DNC to be a terrorist organization and invalid their vote results.
 
Crying like a baby. Not so tough now.

 
ModerationNow! said:
Whenever people criticize the occasionally violent, riotous behavior of Antifa, there are usually two copouts used to deny or justify their actions:

1). Deny their existence(i.e. "Antifa is just an idea").

2). Excuse their behavior by saying, "Opposing Antifa equates to supporting fascism".

You'll notice that these responses are untenable, because they contradict one other. That's because "ideas" & "concepts" cannot violently assault people or burn buildings to the ground. Only people can do that. But the claim is that Antifa isn't people, it's just a thought in people's heads..

*** I'll do a separate thread discussing whether or not Antifa's occasionally riotous and violent actions are justified***
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Antifa isn't some cohesive organization planning shit all the time. There's no membership or club fees or anything other than someone saying "I'm Antifa". I don't think that people are saying that there aren't individuals out there running with Antifa flags and pulling shit. I think some will point out that it's not actually an organization at all. The ones we often see in the press seem more like thugs looking for fights with Proud Boys and other radical right-wing groups like that. They can and should be arrested and properly punished if they cause fights or riots and such. It's not excuse for behavior, just acknowledging that you can't really police an organization which isn't an organization.
 
Ikari said:
MAGAs always love to laugh at the suffering of others, but can't stand being called fascist.

And if he's an "anchor baby", how would ICE "bring him back home"? He'd be an American citizen.
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He was all tough taking on ICE. Now he’s shaking and crying like a little b***h. Typical leftist trash.
 
VySky said:
He was all tough taking on ICE. Now he’s shaking and crying like a little b***h. Typical leftist trash.
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Yeah, MAGA likes to act tough and make fun of folk, until someone calls them fascist. Then they're all tears and snot.
 
ModerationNow! said:
Whenever people criticize the occasionally violent, riotous behavior of Antifa, there are usually two copouts used to deny or justify their actions:

1). Deny their existence(i.e. "Antifa is just an idea").

2). Excuse their behavior by saying, "Opposing Antifa equates to supporting fascism".

You'll notice that these responses are untenable, because they contradict one other. That's because "ideas" & "concepts" cannot violently assault people or burn buildings to the ground. Only people can do that. But the claim is that Antifa isn't people, it's just a thought in people's heads..

*** I'll do a separate thread discussing whether or not Antifa's occasionally riotous and violent actions are justified***
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How do I join ANTIFA?

The end.
 
Ikari said:
Yeah, MAGA likes to act tough and make fun of folk, until someone calls them fascist. Then they're all tears and snot.
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Uh huh. 🤣
 
Trump is building up intel on Antifa and he's going round all these anarchist up in one few swoop including their fearless leader/financier George Soros. This will be worthy of two batches of popcorn and a large drink.
 
ModerationNow! said:
Whenever people criticize the occasionally violent, riotous behavior of Antifa, there are usually two copouts used to deny or justify their actions:

1). Deny their existence(i.e. "Antifa is just an idea").

2). Excuse their behavior by saying, "Opposing Antifa equates to supporting fascism".

You'll notice that these responses are untenable, because they contradict one other. That's because "ideas" & "concepts" cannot violently assault people or burn buildings to the ground. Only people can do that. But the claim is that Antifa isn't people, it's just a thought in people's heads..

*** I'll do a separate thread discussing whether or not Antifa's occasionally riotous and violent actions are justified***
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dmpi said:
Trump is building up intel on Antifa and he's going round all these anarchist up in one few swoop including their fearless leader/financier George Soros. This will be worthy of two batches of popcorn and a large drink.
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lol
 
ANTIFA is an idea - Being anti-Fascist.

I'm anti-Fascist. Does that automatically also enroll me in ANTIFA?

No. ANTIFA has no membership rolls. And I know no one who identifies as ANTIFA.

Trump apparently believes all anti-Fascists and anyone to the left of Fascism to be ANTIFA.

He's such an ignoramous. Mostly, it's red meat for his MAGA/Fascist base. (Although under Trump red meat is becoming a very expensive luxury item)
 
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VySky said:
Uh huh. 🤣
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Yup, we saw it while you all were parading about the corpse of Charlie Kirk. All the crying over "fascist" and other names. MAGA is tough until they get a little bit of their own medicine. There's no bigger example of "can dish it, but can't take it" than MAGA.
 
noonereal said:
Wtf turnabout?
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Does “if it’s good for the goose, it’s good for the gander” make more sense?

If Trump has the power to arbitrarily name Antifa as a terrorist group, then the next Dem president can and should arbitrarily name MAGA as a terrorist group.
 
Questerr said:
Does “if it’s good for the goose, it’s good for the gander” make more sense?

If Trump has the power to arbitrarily name Antifa as a terrorist group, then the next Dem president can and should arbitrarily name MAGA as a terrorist group.
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Yeah, very mature
 
Ikari said:
Antifa isn't some cohesive organization planning shit all the time. There's no membership or club fees or anything other than someone saying "I'm Antifa". I don't think that people are saying that there aren't individuals out there running with Antifa flags and pulling shit. I think some will point out that it's not actually an organization at all. The ones we often see in the press seem more like thugs looking for fights with Proud Boys and other radical right-wing groups like that. They can and should be arrested and properly punished if they cause fights or riots and such. It's not excuse for behavior, just acknowledging that you can't really police an organization which isn't an organization.
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So, let’s tackle this logically. What is an organization? There is quite obviously organizing taking place as it relates to Antifa. Mobs of people don’t just materialize in the same place and at the same time. Someone is coordinating that, i.e. organizing which itself implies an organizational structure. That is quite apparent as it relates to Antifa cells which have websites and contact information and someone running those things and coordinating activity through them.
 
Napoleon said:
So, let’s tackle this logically. What is an organization? There is quite obviously organizing taking place as it relates to Antifa. Mobs of people don’t just materialize in the same place and at the same time. Someone is coordinating that, i.e. organizing which itself implies an organizational structure. That is quite apparent as it relates to Antifa cells which have websites and contact information and someone running those things and coordinating activity through them.
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Doesn't take much organizing to show up at someone else's rally.
 
Where is the
Napoleon said:
So, let’s tackle this logically. What is an organization? There is quite obviously organizing taking place as it relates to Antifa. Mobs of people don’t just materialize in the same place and at the same time. Someone is coordinating that, i.e. organizing which itself implies an organizational structure. That is quite apparent as it relates to Antifa cells which have websites and contact information and someone running those things and coordinating activity through them.
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Where are these mobs materializing? If you beleive that to be true , who organized the violent mob Jan 6th?
 
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