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Is an arranged marriage a forced marriage ?

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Keep in mind about 50% of marriages are. where is the line between arrangement and coercion? In communities where family pressure, societal expectations are involved, can we really say the choice is free ?
 
Well first we have to insist that age of majority is respected at a minimum. We can't rule out parental coercion if the bride is 15 and the groom is 17. Second, we have to deal with any property exchange or 'dowery' which creates a huge coercive incentive by families to impose the arrangement.
 
Almost universally, yes.
 
Wow, 50%. Dang, I didn't know that.
 
You got respect other cultures. Also recognize that 'marriage' means different things to different people. Sometimes it's more about survival.
 
So, to answer the question above - notice the wording. Arranged, forced. If someone arranges a marriage and the two parties go along with it, it isn't forced. If one of the two parties feels obliged to go through with it, it's forced.
 
Keep in mind about 50% of marriages are. where is the line between arrangement and coercion? In communities where family pressure, societal expectations are involved, can we really say the choice is free ?
"Arranged marriage" can mean vastly different things in different places so I'm not sure a generic view is useful. Obviously forced marriage (or indeed forcibly prevented marriage) is a real problem in all sorts of places and all sorts of ways, but they can only be addressed in their specific contexts. I'd also suggest that all communities have family and social pressures in all sorts of directions so even in generally free societies, there can be elements of pressure or coercion.
 
I see nothing wrong with arranged marriages if the parents have the welfare of their child at heart. And clearly, if a child doesn't hit it off with the selected individual --- loving parents wouldn't force their child to marry under any circumstance. Generally, such arrangements would involve old family friends. Spouses are not just picked out of a hat. And honestly, is finding someone at a bar any better?
 
Keep in mind about 50% of marriages are. where is the line between arrangement and coercion? In communities where family pressure, societal expectations are involved, can we really say the choice is free ?
Show me evidence that 50% of marriages are forced. Are you talking about worldwide statistics, as in 3rd world countries?
 
Arranged marriages aren't *inherently* forced marriages, although they certainly can be. Arranged marriages seem to work pretty well in many parts of the world. I know a few people who had arranged marriages (first- or second-generation immigrants from Asia) and they seem satisfied with their lives, as far as I can tell.

It doesn't seem like most Western nations really have their shit together when it comes to figuring out functional relationships, so I don't want to judge other customs on this topic too harshly. 🤷‍♂️
 
Keep in mind about 50% of marriages are. where is the line between arrangement and coercion? In communities where family pressure, societal expectations are involved, can we really say the choice is free ?
The line is where the person getting married feels about it. If they don't want to do it, then it is forced AND arranged. If they want to do it, then it is only arranged. The problem is that one will not always be able to tell if the person wants to or not, as they may have developed methods to look like they want to do what their family is forcing them to do.
 
The two people being married having the freedom to say no would be a huge factor.
Sadly, in some cultures they don't have that freedom, whether it is restricted by law (still in existence in a few places) or that freedom being restricted by social and familial pressure.
 
Arranged marriages aren't *inherently* forced marriages, although they certainly can be. Arranged marriages seem to work pretty well in many parts of the world. I know a few people who had arranged marriages (first- or second-generation immigrants from Asia) and they seem satisfied with their lives, as far as I can tell.

It doesn't seem like most Western nations really have their shit together when it comes to figuring out functional relationships, so I don't want to judge other customs on this topic too harshly. 🤷‍♂️
That sounds very regressive. I'm also curious what you mean by "functional", or why "being functional" is even a goal to begin with.
 
Arranged marriages aren't *inherently* forced marriages, although they certainly can be. Arranged marriages seem to work pretty well in many parts of the world. I know a few people who had arranged marriages (first- or second-generation immigrants from Asia) and they seem satisfied with their lives, as far as I can tell.

It doesn't seem like most Western nations really have their shit together when it comes to figuring out functional relationships, so I don't want to judge other customs on this topic too harshly. 🤷‍♂️
As long as people make choices based upon sensuality and looks ---- they are going to make wrong choices. Much of what makes a good marriage is being in agreement regarding GOD, the desire for & raising of children, and being willing as a couple to work together to achieve goals.
 
That sounds very regressive. I'm also curious what you mean by "functional", or why "being functional" is even a goal to begin with.
Being generally happy in their relationships, not getting divorced in massive numbers, etc.
 
Yes. Consent between the people marrying is para****ingmount.
 
Much of what makes a good marriage is being in agreement regarding GOD,

Including agreeing that there is no god or gods, if such are their beliefs.
 
I didn’t say that.
You did say that 50% of marriages are something.
Keep in mind about 50% of marriages are.
Without specification, and given the title of the thread, it would seem that you are saying that 50% are forced. If that is not what you are saying, then what are those 50% of marriages?
 
You did say that 50% of marriages are something.

Without specification, and given the title of the thread, it would seem that you are saying that 50% are forced. If that is not what you are saying, then what are those 50% of marriages?
50% are arranged marriages obviously.
 
50% are arranged marriages obviously.
Not obviously, otherwise you wouldn't have people bringing up the issue. Now where is that figure from? Do you have an actual source, or just pulling number out of......the air?
 
Keep in mind about 50% of marriages are. where is the line between arrangement and coercion? In communities where family pressure, societal expectations are involved, can we really say the choice is free ?
Depends on the culture and the time period.

Some cultures am arranged marriage has to be agreed upon by both parties or just one or neither at all.
 
Not obviously, otherwise you wouldn't have people bringing up the issue. Now where is that figure from? Do you have an actual source, or just pulling number out of......the air?
Well I think it was obvious to most people. Don’t worry nobody understands everything straight away.
 
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