you use means motive and opportunity as tools to steer you in the right direction to gather that hard evidence. you don't waste your time looking for evidence where there is no means or opportunity. If you can prove that Obama didn't have the means motive or opportunity then and only then should his name be struck of the list of possible involvementHey, free speech give you the right to say almost anything, that doesn't mean it's correct. And I'm not the one drinking the Koolaid, it's the partisan folks on the right drinking it. You might have the motive and means to seal merchandise from a store, that doesn't mean you are a suspect unless you are watch Perry Mason.
Hard evidence, Hard evidence.
I think its his responsibility is to make sure all the departments under him do their job ethically. What happened at the IRS appears to me to be nothing more than a giant screw up, especially since the manager is a self described conservative Republican. He should remove anyone who has put politics in their job.
IRS targeting linked to Republican staffer - Toledo Blade
IRS supervisor in DC scrutinized tea party cases
what was it liar Cummings said again?
"Washington's involvement in the IRS scandal were "unsubstantiated,"
What was it that Issa said?
"Washington was involved"
by the way Holly Paz is a registered Democrat who donated $4,000 to the Obama campaign in 2008
Gibberish.you use means motive and opportunity as tools to steer you in the right direction to gather that hard evidence. you don't waste your time looking for evidence where there is no means or opportunity. If you can prove that Obama didn't have the means motive or opportunity then and only then should his name be struck of the list of possible involvement
the so called Republican is a Republican because the proven liar Cummings says he is?
the so called Republican is a Republican because the proven liar Cummings says he is?
Despite any faults you feel Bush may have had he was a tested leader with a record that one could inspect, and it was felt both times that he was a superior candidate to either Gore or Kerry. In retrospect I think the people were right
If George Bush were to run against Barrack Obama now, purely on their records, Bush would most likely win.
So your thought is that Obama is not held responsible for anything because you believe Bush wasnt? How many different ways do you want me to shred that? If you really want to discuss it, start a new thread.
Back to the topic at hand---if you believe that the President cannot possibly be responsible for everything that occurs, that would be a good argument for two things: stronger oversight and less government. Internal investigations and IG inspections arent getting the job done and the stonewalling that has been occurring just makes the administration look guilty.
No, my point is that the right wants to hold Obama responsible for EVERYTHING while they gave Bush a free pass. Kinda hard to take those on the right seriously.
I have no problem with more oversight and less government. However, what "appears" to you to be guilty is of little consequence, either put up some evidence or look like stupid conspiracy nuts.
No, my point is that the right wants to hold Obama responsible for EVERYTHING while they gave Bush a free pass. Kinda hard to take those on the right seriously.
I have no problem with more oversight and less government. However, what "appears" to you to be guilty is of little consequence, either put up some evidence or look like stupid conspiracy nuts.
So, how does "she was personally involved in scrutinizing some of the earliest applications from tea party groups seeking tax-exempt status" put her in the middle of the time-frame and actions of the targeted sweeps that the IRS investigation is talking about?
So tell me why they are hiding the 'oh so innocent' Holly Paz, and Lois Lerner? :roll: I swear, progressive defense at this point wouldn't hold up in a 4th grade principles office, much less in the adult world.
This from a ‘ right-wing, crazy conspiracy theorist’.
IRS admits targeting TEA Party…one year after TheBlaze broke the story – Glenn Beck
Absolutely! the progressive left will always shout "crazy" or Conspiricy when anyone gets too close to the truth of the matter.
Not buyin' it Pete....
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