KidRocks
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Mark A Shrider said:You seem a bit surprised by this. This has been their lifestyle and has only been deemed newsworthy since the start of the war. A simple Yahoo search turned up this...
http://www.libertypost.org/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=105225
"...the death rate is running at the rate of about 45 dead per 100,000 population per year."
"During Saddam’s long reign, the Iraqi death rate from democide (the government killing its own people) averaged over 100 per 100,000 a year."
http://wheels128.blogspot.com/2005/05/iraq-before-and-after.html
"Deaths: 24,000 Iraqis in first year since 2003 invasion
Saddam's reign has an estimated death toll of 1.26 million with 4.54 million refugees created, according to the State Department's figures. Saddam's rule was from 1979-2003, so in 24 years, his average yearly death toll was 52,500, with over 189,000 refugees."
I'm not suggesting the new government is killing it's own, but that culture is certainly present in these types of attacks.
Navy Pride said:When something good happens they never post it...........
Navy Pride said:Isn't it ironic how fast one of our friends on the far left can't wait to post something bad that happens in Iraq................
When something good happens they never post it...........
KidRocks said:Ok, name something good coming out of President Bush's invasion of Iraq.
Elections? Not much good has it accomplished so far has it?
Schools?: They had schools there before Bush attacked Iraq, probably in better shape too.
Electricity? Dismal failure!
Hospitals? Nope!
Simon W. Moon said:What criteria would we use to determine if a civil war ahd started or not?
KidRocks said:Jobs? No!
from a previously posted link said:Unemployment: 10.5%, or 18.4% when including those who had given up looking
This compares very favourably to pre-war Iraq, where the unemployment rate was 50-60%. However, don't expect the lefties to stop quoting 70% figures any time soon. On another note, at 10.5%, that puts the unemployment below Germany, and only 1.5% higher than the EU average.
tototu said:Iraq is a huge success. What kind of a doofy thread is this? We are in the middle of one the most successfully fought wars in history. We are in the middle of reconstruction and renationlization while under continuing attack by an insurgency who can deliver no more than death and destruction. You want electricity? Show me an insurgent group that will deliver that rather than blow it up. You don't like the pace of setting up a government after elections? It took us 12 years to do it in the US with none of the internal problems or continuing guerrilla warfare that the Iraqis face. Get real littleman. You want to support the troops? Don't give out the Army's phone number, stand up and laud their accomplishments. This is the most sanitary war that has ever been fought. The collateral damage to civilians is as minimal as has ever been experienced in conflict.
And don't separate Iraq from what goes on here. It's either Fallujah in Fallujah or it's Fallujah in Phoenix. The choice was presented to us clearly 4 years ago. I already picked where I want to wage the battles, howboutchoo?
KidRocks said:Ok, name something good coming out of President Bush's invasion of Iraq.
Schools?: They had schools there before Bush attacked Iraq, probably in better shape too.
from a previously posted link said:- Women: 47 per cent illiterate
This is down from 55 per cent in 2002. The literacy rate for young people is higher than the literacy rate for any other age group except 25-34, showing good hope for the future but a backwards progression during Saddam's later years.
- Education: 79 per cent enrolment in primary schools
This is an increase of 700,000 since 2000.
Electricity? Dismal failure!
from a previously posted link said:- Electricity: 29 per cent rely on generators
Pre-war electricity production was estimated at 4,400 megawatts per day, a level that was passed by October 2003. Currently, electricity production averages over 5,000 megawatts per day.
americanwoman said:Name 3 good things that have happened in Iraq over the last week and have given a just reason we should be there. I'll start:
1. We found a huge stockpile of weapons up north and were able to stop many deaths from insurgents.
KidRocks said:Ok, name something good coming out of President Bush's invasion of Iraq.
Elections? Not much good has it accomplished so far has it?
Schools?: They had schools there before Bush attacked Iraq, probably in better shape too.
Electricity? Dismal failure!
Hospitals? Nope!
Arthur Fonzarelli said:Again, try reading the links posted. You might actually learn something.
SixStringHero said:I think it's far too early to tell if a civil war is about to break out.
Give it at least another 5-10 years.
KidRocks said:Well, if it was my choice, we would have spared the lives of 3000 or so brave American troops not to mention the multi-thousands of wounded troops.
We would of spared the lives of probably several thousands more of our troops that are going to needlessly die for President Bush's "choice" to attack Iraq.
We definetely would be watching Saddam squirm in Iraq as he never got a decent nights rest in the same bed twice in a row not to mention we had him cornered North and South.
Fallujah in Phoenix? That's one of the Bush's administration's biggest lies today. There would be no fighting insurgents in the streets anywhere in America! Period!
4 years later and 300 billion dollars spent, Iraq is still a big mess! Will be 4 years from now also!
1. Saddam won't and never has. Not to mention he was never one that the US ever seriously considered a WMD threat. North Korea, Iran, completely different beast, why not deal with the real threat instead of picking on rediculously obsolete countries.Navy Pride said:1. Saddam will never attakc any other country and we don't ever have to worry about him using WOMD on any country........
2. There have been 3 national elections with bigger turnouts there under threat of death then we have here.........
3. Saddams 2 sons will never rape and murder 12 year old virgins in front of their parents again.......
You couldn't have said it better. Hogwash.Navy Pride said:Hogwash...........The far left in this country want us to fail in Iraq even if it means the loss of brave Americans...........They know this is the only way they can ever regain political power.............
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