nah, the suggested solution is to stop creating situations where people view **** like this as a rational response.Diogenes said:And what is your suggested solution? Counseling and therapy for these poor benighted blokes?
And how do you propose to change the thinking of fanatics who believe blowing themselves (and as many others as possible) up is a rational response to anything?galenrox said:nah, the suggested solution is to stop creating situations where people view **** like this as a rational response.
stop ****ing with them. they're not attacking China, another superpower. you know why? cause China's not ****ing with them.Diogenes said:And how do you propose to change the thinking of fanatics who believe blowing themselves (and as many others as possible) up is a rational response to anything?
LOL! Did we **** with them before 9/11? I think you might consider whether China would be as gentle with them as we are at Club Gitmo -- I'm sure the terrorists have already thought about it. :roflgalenrox said:stop ****ing with them. they're not attacking China, another superpower. you know why? cause China's not ****ing with them.
galenrox said:stop ****ing with them. they're not attacking China, another superpower. you know why? cause China's not ****ing with them.
Are you implying that "the West" and the US in particular did not engage in activties that deeply impacted the MENA (Middle East North Africa) area?Diogenes said:LOL! Did we **** with them before 9/11?
I thought that the people that murdered 3,000 innocent men and women on 9-11 were already wiped off the face of the earth.Navy Pride said:I get a real laugh out of the left when they try and blame us forwhat happened on 9/11/01...........They want to coddle and baby the people that murdered 3,000 innocent men and women whos only crime is they were going to work on that morning............
I say wipe them off the face of the earth........
Even our Department of Defense is getting all liberal.Diogenes said:Karl Rove had it right - conservatives prepare for war, liberals prepare for indictments and therapy.
That's like say capitol punishment is a deterrent. Which is ludicrous. You don't solve problems without identifying how they are caused. Until we address why people get so mad they want to fly planes in our buildings, you are not going to solve anything. And by going around the world and killing everyone that isn't you, you actually putting more Americans in danger. Nobody is saying codle anyone. If you want to talk that way, then I see George Bush has a little more pep in his walk since the bombing.Originally posted by Navy Pride:
I get a real laugh out of the left when they try and blame us forwhat happened on 9/11/01...........They want to coddle and baby the people that murdered 3,000 innocent men and women whos only crime is they were going to work on that morning............
I say wipe them off the face of the earth........
Wise words Billy. So true mateBillo_Really said:You don't solve problems without identifying how they are caused. Until we address why people get so mad they want to fly planes in our buildings, you are not going to solve anything. And by going around the world and killing everyone that isn't you, you actually putting more Americans in danger. Life isn't black or white. If / Then. Either / Or. There are many more choices than those.
Your statement is ludicrous. No one who has been executed for a crime has ever repeated that crime, so on the record it is a 100% effective deterrent.Billo_Really said:That's like say capitol punishment is a deterrent. Which is ludicrous.
You also don't solve problems by assuming a priori that the terrorists are rational people responding in a rational way to our policies. What "policies" do you think Ted Bundy, Joe Duncan, John Cooey and Alphonso Rodriguez were responding to? It's a big world with a lot of people in it - some of them are just plain evil, and have to be removed. Try thinking of it as an overdue abortion.You don't solve problems without identifying how they are caused. Until we address why people get so mad they want to fly planes in our buildings, you are not going to solve anything.
How do you pass a death sentance on a suicide bomber after he's killed himself ?Diogenes said:You also don't solve problems by assuming a priori that the terrorists are rational people responding in a rational way to our policies. What "policies" do you think Ted Bundy, Joe Duncan, John Cooey and Alphonso Rodriguez were responding to? It's a big world with a lot of people in it - some of them are just plain evil, and have to be removed. Try thinking of it as an overdue abortion.
robin said:It's come to light that the London suicide bombers were young men born in the UK & their families originated in Pakistan. They were in no way openly Islamic fundamentalists. They were in no way connected to Iraq anymore than the 911 terrorists were. They blended in with the community like any ordinary Muslims.
How ludicrous to think the war in Iraq is a war on terror. Yet it's killed many times more innocent people than the terrorists have !
It is terror !
Diogenes said:Your statement is ludicrous. No one who has been executed for a crime has ever repeated that crime, so on the record it is a 100% effective deterrent.
You also don't solve problems by assuming a priori that the terrorists are rational people responding in a rational way to our policies. What "policies" do you think Ted Bundy, Joe Duncan, John Cooey and Alphonso Rodriguez were responding to? It's a big world with a lot of people in it - some of them are just plain evil, and have to be removed. Try thinking of it as an overdue abortion.
Diogenes said:Agreed, Manson should make any list that includes Ted Bundy. On the other hand, the two of them are in a different category from the rest - the others are repeat offenders that we had in custody at one time, and the children they have killed since then are a testament to our failure to deal correctly with them the first time. Unfortunately we don't seem to have learned anything from our experience with these animals, so it is refreshing to see Bush take a more practical approach with the terrorists.
galenrox said:stop ****ing with them. they're not attacking China, another superpower. you know why? cause China's not ****ing with them.
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