Iraq Plans Inquiry Into Hussein Execution (1 Viewer)

[26 X World Champs]

Sadly the relationship between the Bush government and the so-called Iraqi "UNITY" Government has again been exposed as totally bogus and botched like almost everything else the Bushies have done in Iraq.

How crazy, sick, pathetic and awful is it that because of the insane way Saddam was rushed into his execution and the even more screwed up way that the actual execution was handled that we, the USA and our propped up Iraqi "UNITY" government behaved during the execution that they have actually fanned even more sectarian hate between Sunnis and Shiites?

Saddam Hussein, the notorious BUTCHER of BAGHDAD has been turned into a martyr and Sunni hero somehow, someway because of the outrageously messed up way Saddam was executed.

How is that supporters of the most violent Iraqi alive today, Moktada al-Sadr were allowed to participate in the execution and were allowed to taunt and chant "Moktada" right before Saddam was killed?

Since everyone has now seen the video of what happened it is sadly easy to see how this spectacle inflames more civil strife in Iraq.

Here's the story in the NY Times...your comments please!

Iraq Plans Inquiry Into Hussein Execution

By JOHN F. BURNS - New York Times
Published: January 2, 2007

BAGHDAD, Jan. 2 — With angry demonstrations spreading across Iraq’s Sunni Arab heartland, the country’s Shiite-led government said today that it had ordered an investigation into the disorderly scenes at the execution of Saddam Hussein, who was mocked and taunted by Shiite witnesses and guards as he stood on the gallows.

Iraqi officials said a three-member committee of the Interior Ministry would investigate scenes that have raised outrage among Mr. Hussein’s Sunni Arab loyalists and widespread consternation elsewhere as video recordings of the execution have been broadcast around the world.

The officials said the government wanted to know how some of those present at the hanging had been allowed to use cellphone cameras to record grainy images of Mr. Hussein as he endured the mockery from a group standing in front of the gallows. But the investigation would also ask why the hanging had been allowed to descend into scenes that some Sunni critics have described as a sectarian lynching, the officials said.

Source: Iraq Plans Inquiry Into Hussein Execution - New York Times

 

[Navy Pride]

Sadly the relationship between the Bush government and the so-called Iraqi "UNITY" Government has again been exposed as totally bogus and botched like almost everything else the Bushies have done in Iraq.

How crazy, sick, pathetic and awful is it that because of the insane way Saddam was rushed into his execution and the even more screwed up way that the actual execution was handled that we, the USA and our propped up Iraqi "UNITY" government behaved during the execution that they have actually fanned even more sectarian hate between Sunnis and Shiites?

Saddam Hussein, the notorious BUTCHER of BAGHDAD has been turned into a martyr and Sunni hero somehow, someway because of the outrageously messed up way Saddam was executed.

How is that supporters of the most violent Iraqi alive today, Moktada al-Sadr were allowed to participate in the execution and were allowed to taunt and chant "Moktada" right before Saddam was killed?

Since everyone has now seen the video of what happened it is sadly easy to see how this spectacle inflames more civil strife in Iraq.

Here's the story in the NY Times...your comments please!


Source: Iraq Plans Inquiry Into Hussein Execution - New York Times

Do you ever read anything but that left wing rag the NY Times?

 

[PeteEU]

Do you ever read anything but that left wing rag the NY Times?

dont make it less true.

 

[Cold Dirt]

dont make it less true.

NYT has serious issues with the truth as we have seen before........didn't they have to fire a reporter for making it stories and using false info to back up his claims?

How about all the other stories that they have reported that turns out to be false, down right a lie or very misleading......

its people like you that claim Fox News is bias yet have their head so far up the liberal media *** to see all the BS stories you guys try to pass off as the truth.........

 

[TheNextEra]

I am just curious for those that are bitching about this being a NYT story, what in the story SPECIFICALLY are you guys saying they are lying about?

FACT: There was a camera phone that recorded the executtion that should not have been there.

FACT: There was heckling of Saddam, something that was not supposed to happen according to the Iraqi government.

These are facts people. UNDENIABLE. So what in the NYT story is incorrect?

 

[TheNextEra]

NYT has serious issues with the truth as we have seen before........didn't they have to fire a reporter for making it stories and using false info to back up his claims?

So what specifically are you saying they are not telling the truth about here?

 

[26 X World Champs]

Do you ever read anything but that left wing rag the NY Times?

What a foolish, foolish comment...par for the course...Here's a link to the same story being reported around the world in 1340 different newspapers:

- Google News

Are you actually saying that the NY Times story is a lie? That the Iraqi government is NOT investigating what happened at Saddam's execution? Are you actually saying that the facts as seen on the video are a lie?

Or...as usual...will you simply admit that you've not read the story or watched the execution video and therefore your post is just a made up jab at me and the NY Times?

:rofl

 

[26 X World Champs]

NYT has serious issues with the truth as we have seen before........didn't they have to fire a reporter for making it stories and using false info to back up his claims?

How about all the other stories that they have reported that turns out to be false, down right a lie or very misleading......

its people like you that claim Fox News is bias yet have their head so far up the liberal media *** to see all the BS stories you guys try to pass off as the truth.........

Aren't you the guy who prefers vigilantism versus court sanctioned justice?

Aren't you the guy who preferred to personally shoot Saddam in the head without a trial?

Aren't you the guy who spits on the law and instead argues for the right to kill someone without a trial?

And you're now condemning the NY Times? I'd condemn you a million times before I would ever consider your opinion over the reporting of the news as done by the NY Times. I don't believe I've ever read even an editorial or OP-ED piece in the NY Times that advocates murder the way you've done repeatedly in this Forum.

 

[americanwoman]

Whether or not you want to beleive the NYT just watch the video. It speaks for itself.

How is that supporters of the most violent Iraqi alive today, Moktada al-Sadr were allowed to participate in the execution and were allowed to taunt and chant "Moktada" right before Saddam was killed?

I know, how could they have let that happen? It's only a matter of time before we see the true backlash from that.

 

[CurrentAffairs]

Saddam never had a supporter as loyal as Champs. Sad.

 

[Middleground]

Saddam never had a supporter as loyal as Champs. Sad.

You know what's even sadder? That the above is the most intelligent thing you have to say. Maybe you should leave this forum and find one that's on par with your level of intellect.

No doubt it was important that this execution go off without any hitch. I'm surprised that no "public relations campaign" was launched months before.

 

[CurrentAffairs]

You know what's even sadder? That the above is the most intelligent thing you have to say. Maybe you should leave this forum and find one that's on par with your level of intellect.

Stick around. You'll see.

 

[reaganburch]

Sadly the relationship between the Bush government and the so-called Iraqi "UNITY" Government has again been exposed as totally bogus and botched like almost everything else the Bushies have done in Iraq.

How crazy, sick, pathetic and awful is it that because of the insane way Saddam was rushed into his execution and the even more screwed up way that the actual execution was handled that we, the USA and our propped up Iraqi "UNITY" government behaved during the execution that they have actually fanned even more sectarian hate between Sunnis and Shiites?

Saddam Hussein, the notorious BUTCHER of BAGHDAD has been turned into a martyr and Sunni hero somehow, someway because of the outrageously messed up way Saddam was executed.

How is that supporters of the most violent Iraqi alive today, Moktada al-Sadr were allowed to participate in the execution and were allowed to taunt and chant "Moktada" right before Saddam was killed?

Since everyone has now seen the video of what happened it is sadly easy to see how this spectacle inflames more civil strife in Iraq.

Here's the story in the NY Times...your comments please!


Source: Iraq Plans Inquiry Into Hussein Execution - New York Times

I can't see how anyone can see that video and not call it a lynching. I was hoping for some closure and it just seemed to throw a whole bunch of gasoline on a fire that needed no help raging....

I'll be one of the first to admit that Hussein got what was coming to him, but say what you will about the death penalty, there should be some 'civility' to it... especially when there is so much **** going on over there.

I think the whole 'hanging to degrade him' backfired. They should have shot him in the head in his cell once he was convicted and appeals all gone through, with no fan-fare and no publicity. When he was dead, then put out a press-release... Hussein executed. Body to buried in an unmarked grave. That's it...

 

[PeteEU]

They already arrested someone it seems.

 

[jujuman13]

It is being reported that the person using the phone to capture the execution of Saddam Hussein has now been arrested.

Those who also need to be arrested are the ones who taunted Saddam Hussein in the lead up to the trap door being opened, these people should be arrested, tried, given hefty prison sentences for this behaviour.

However, as is usual in any Muslim country, with enough money / influence, in a couple of weeks when tempers have died down, when the story no longer rates in the press, these people will be released and nothing further will be done.

Any person condemned to die for their crimes is entitled to be allowed to die and meet their maker with as much dignity as is possible.
What should have happened was that the sentence should have been read to him, after which he should have been allowed to say his prayers after which he dies.
It is never necessary to taunt any prisoner awaiting execution however dire their crime.

 

[jujuman13]

But guess what?
The Iraqi Gov. could view Saddam Husseins execution as a practise, they may get it done correctly when they execute Chemical Ali later on today.
And yes they should video it complete with sound and reveal to the world that they can learn how to do it correctly.
But do not hold your breath.

 

[Hatuey]

I can't see how anyone can see that video and not call it a lynching. I was hoping for some closure and it just seemed to throw a whole bunch of gasoline on a fire that needed no help raging....

I'll be one of the first to admit that Hussein got what was coming to him, but say what you will about the death penalty, there should be some 'civility' to it... especially when there is so much **** going on over there.

I think the whole 'hanging to degrade him' backfired. They should have shot him in the head in his cell once he was convicted and appeals all gone through, with no fan-fare and no publicity. When he was dead, then put out a press-release... Hussein executed. Body to buried in an unmarked grave. That's it...

Right-Wingers would have never let that happen. They thought it'd be a good way to show the left how great things are going in Iraq and like everyone of their less bright ideas. It's probably going to back to haunt them. It already has. Letting the hanging of Saddam be public was a HUGE mistake on the Iraqi goverments side and on our side. By throwing our weight around and allowing the execution to be public we've(The U.S. along with the Iraqi Goverment) given the insurgency a new reason to fight. And its' going to cost us big. Even if they dont care about Saddam, they're going to use his namesake for vendetta killings and the future politically motivated assassinations they commit.

 

[CurrentAffairs]

By throwing our weight around and allowing the execution to be public we've(The U.S. along with the Iraqi Goverment) given the insurgency a new reason to fight.

Nice rant, except the United States did not participate in the trial , sentencing or execution of Saddam. Iraq and the Iraqi government chose how to proceed with those matters.

He said the United States had nothing to do with the facility where the execution took place.

"We were not involved in any searches of any people, we had nobody present," Caldwell said. "We did not dictate any requirements that had to be followed. This was a government of Iraq decision on how that whole process went down."

BREITBART.COM - White House Won't Condemn Saddam Taunts

 

[26 X World Champs]

Saddam never had a supporter as loyal as Champs. Sad.

What is your problem? Do you have anything at all to contribute other than to write inept and ignorant one line comments? I seem to recall not too long ago when you blessed us with your presence here you complained in post after post about how people in this Forum put each other down rather than debate....now that's all you do.

Show me one post, any post, that I've ever written that supports Saddam? You can't so why don't you go back into your spider hole and have some more KFC?

You're posts are actually stupider and contribute less than NP's do...and that takes a special sort...hell...even he disagrees with everything you post...

:kissass

 

[26 X World Champs]

Nice rant, except the United States did not participate in the trial , sentencing or execution of Saddam. Iraq and the Iraqi government chose how to proceed with those matters.

He said the United States had nothing to do with the facility where the execution took place.

"We were not involved in any searches of any people, we had nobody present," Caldwell said. "We did not dictate any requirements that had to be followed. This was a government of Iraq decision on how that whole process went down."

BREITBART.COM - White House Won't Condemn Saddam Taunts

It's great to know that after spending half a trillion dollars and having 3000 soldiers killed, having 20,000+ soldiers maimed that we have declining influence on the so-called "UNITY" government. Here's what the NY Times is reporting today:

“You know, if you’re asking me, ‘Would we have done things differently,’ yes, we would have,” said Maj. Gen. William Caldwell IV, an American military spokesman in Baghdad, at a news briefing on Wednesday.

“But that’s not our decision,” he added. “That’s an Iraqi government decision.”

The reaction from the American military seemed to widen a rift that has been opening recently between the Shiite-led government of Mr. Maliki and its American supporters on a range of issues. They include the government’s tolerance of militias, the recent discovery of the unofficial presence of Iranian military officers in Baghdad and the swiftness with which the Iraqis put Mr. Hussein to death after his appeals had been exhausted.

Mr. Maliki’s office confirmed Wednesday that until Mr. Hussein’s final hours, the American Embassy had sought a delay in the execution long enough to avoid having it on a Muslim holiday and to resolve some remaining legal issues.

“The Americans wanted to postpone it,” said Maryam al-Rayas, a legal adviser to the prime minister. The decision to go ahead, Ms. Rayas said, was “a victory for the Iraqi government.”

The prime minister had decided that beginning the new year with Mr. Hussein dead trumped all other considerations, including the advice of the embassy, said Ms. Rayas, who also characterized the time frame as reasonable.

Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/03/world/middleeast/03cnd-iraq.html?_r=1&ref=world&oref=slogin

 

[CurrentAffairs]

It's great to know that after spending half a trillion dollars and having 3000 soldiers killed, having 20,000+ soldiers maimed that we have declining influence on the so-called "UNITY" government.

I agree, it is great. They step up and we step down, just as it was planned.

 

[26 X World Champs]

I agree, it is great. They step up and we step down, just as it was planned.

It takes a totally partisan hack to even slightly believe that the so-called IRaqi UNITY government has stepped up to anything...

As usual with your one line posts you completely avoid debating, you completely avoid the facts and you conclude things with a complete lack of knowledge, wisdom and understanding.

 

[CurrentAffairs]

It takes a totally partisan hack to even slightly believe that the so-called IRaqi UNITY government has stepped up to anything....

Your continual namecalling aside, the Iraqi government did, indeed, step up. They tried, sentenced and carried out justice upon Saddam Hussein without our assistance.

As usual with your one line posts you completely avoid debating, you completely avoid the facts and you conclude things with a complete lack of knowledge, wisdom and understanding.

Your continual attacks of the poster rather than the topic at hand falls on deaf ears, champs.

 

[26 X World Champs]

Your continual namecalling aside, the Iraqi government did, indeed, step up. They tried, sentenced and carried out justice upon Saddam Hussein without our assistance.

Wrong as usual. The NY Times summed it up nicely in an editorial today:

Mr. Maliki’s usual cheerleaders, President Bush and Britain’s prime minister, Tony Blair, have distanced themselves from this repellent spectacle. Yet the Bush administration again finds that it has little credibility to lecture anyone on the basic dignity due to detainees. The Washington Post reported yesterday on an internal F.B.I. investigation that revealed a pattern of deliberate taunting of the religious beliefs of Muslim prisoners at Guantánamo. (snip)

Most Americans, whatever their view of the war, understand that the rule of Saddam Hussein brought a murderous curse and untold suffering upon the Iraqi people. Mr. Hussein has now gone to his grave. But the outrageous manner of his killing, deliberately mimicking his own depraved methods, assures that his cruelty will outlive him.

Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/04/opinion/04thur1.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

 

[CurrentAffairs]

Wrong as usual. The NY Times summed it up nicely in an editorial today:


Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/04/opinion/04thur1.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Thanks for that op-ed, champs. :roll: