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Iran War Is Shiny New Thing, Ukraine War Is Old Hat - Buhbye Zelensky!

Hamish Howl said:
He's gonna hurt. Most of the electronics for Iranian drones were still coming from Iran.
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Maybe China will sell them to Russia now. China wants to keep the wars going in this part of the world as they plan their retaking of Taiwan. Trump will not be the next president and if a democrat wins China gets Taiwan and Russia gets Ukraine. Then Putin can decides what country they want next.
Oh and Zelenskyy remains dictator until Putin takes his country.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
Maybe China will sell them to Russia now. China wants to keep the wars going in this part of the world as they plan their retaking of Taiwan. Trump will not be the next president and if a democrat wins China gets Taiwan and Russia gets Ukraine. Then Putin can decides what country they want next.
Oh and Zelenskyy remains dictator until Putin takes his country.
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LOL. Trump is a pansy. Every other world leader knows it.
 
sanman said:
Nonsense, Russia has long brought production of Iran-made weapons under its own roof, and it can still go to North Korea if necessary.
Meanwhile Ukraine is running on fumes.
And of course this war is sending oil prices thru the roof, which is a huge shot in the arm for Russia.
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Except that's bullshit. Russia is making the airframe, but most of the PCBs are still coming from Iran.

And North Korea isn't making those PCBs, either.
 
Hamish Howl said:
Spare us the Goebbels act.
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Lol!! You really are a one trick pony. If people don't agree with you, your immediate go to is the Nazi claim. It's hilarious. If you have a brother that likes his potatoes different than yours, is he a Nazi?? O course he is. He likes that German potato salad. I bet you have the name of every last Nazi officer on a clipboard, just so you run through em here and spit out names like Goebbels. Let's see, who's after G?? LOL!!
 
Hamish Howl said:
Except that's bullshit. Russia is making the airframe, but most of the PCBs are still coming from Iran.
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Anything the Iranians can make, can be outsourced from elsewhere.

Hamish Howl said:
And North Korea isn't making those PCBs, either.
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Plenty of other places to get these from. These are very low-tech drones.
Not a show-stopper at all.
 
sanman said:
Anything the Iranians can make, can be outsourced from elsewhere.
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Yes, and starting a new PCB production line is easy, right?
sanman said:
Plenty of other places to get these from. These are very low-tech drones.
Not a show-stopper at all.
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Keep on believing.
 
Helix said:
In western English, that would be "a shiny new thing."

I can't help but hear this with a particular accent, however.
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The Russian language does not include indefinite articles.
 
Hamish Howl said:
LOL. Trump is a pansy. Every other world leader knows it.
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That is why Russia attacked Crimea when Obama was president and Ukraine when Biden was president. He knows who the pansies are.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
That is why Russia attacked Crimea when Obama was president and Ukraine when Biden was president. He knows who the pansies are.
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He knows not to get his useful idiot into trouble and Trump is the most idiotic of idiots to have ever stepped foot in the white house.
 
Hamish Howl said:
These are one trick times. It's binary, really. Either you are for authoritarianism and imperialism or you are against it.
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Or the problems are simplified to accommodate limited perceptions. War is an environmental and social aberration that requires an ethical abdication - mostly forced - to make people engage in it. To that end, your simplified "for or against" statement is a typical of violent enforcement aka coercion. The only way to avoid war is to take a broader view of conflicts, understand the underlying causes, and pursue diplomatic solutions. War should only be viewed as a last resort, not a first choice implementation, as it has been in recent years
 
Logophile said:
Or the problems are simplified to accommodate limited perceptions. War is an environmental and social aberration that requires an ethical abdication - mostly forced - to make people engage in it. To that end, your simplified "for or against" statement is a typical of violent enforcement aka coercion. The only way to avoid war is to take a broader view of conflicts, understand the underlying causes, and pursue diplomatic solutions. War should only be viewed as a last resort, not a first choice implementation, as it has been in recent years
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You gotta be kidding. You don't know who the agressor is? You can't tell who the war criminal is? You've posted an impressive philosophy of barbarism, and you want to confuse us? Lol!
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
That is why Russia attacked Crimea when Obama was president and Ukraine when Biden was president. He knows who the pansies are.
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Don't worry, Trump said he will stop the war in one day!
 
soap box said:
You gotta be kidding. You don't know who the agressor is? You can't tell who the war criminal is? You've posted an impressive philosophy of barbarism, and you want to confuse us? Lol!
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The world is full of war criminals, but I'm not five years old and neither are you, so there's no point in trying to find some black and white version of the truth, replete with your pointy finger, crying "he started it" as if you were in kindergarten. Any leader causing and/or facilitating war with the net result of orchestrating and engaging in it will eventually earn the title of war criminal. Your former president is a war criminal, and Trump is fast approaching it. Putin is a war criminal but so is Zelensky, and Netanyahu certainly fits the bill. All these people treat civilians and all forms of life as nonentities, and they're not. All these people have inflicted huge damage on the environment, on wildlife, murdered innocents including children and contributed to a roasting planet. All these people are guilty and should be in front of the Hague, but they're not. And they won't be. So the only solution is to curb the violent tendency by refusing to let it go there. Diplomacy is the only reasonable course to finding the core of what they want and coming to a bilateral agreement. We're 8.2 billion on this planet. War is no longer something we can weather. We are on self-destruct unless we finally grow out of apehood
 
Logophile said:
The world is full of war criminals, but I'm not five years old and neither are you, so there's no point in trying to find some black and white version of the truth, replete with your pointy finger, crying "he started it" as if you were in kindergarten. Any leader causing and/or facilitating war with the net result of orchestrating and engaging in it will eventually earn the title of war criminal. Your former president is a war criminal, and Trump is fast approaching it. Putin is a war criminal but so is Zelensky, and Netanyahu certainly fits the bill. All these people treat civilians and all forms of life as nonentities, and they're not. All these people have inflicted huge damage on the environment, on wildlife, murdered innocents including children and contributed to a roasting planet. All these people are guilty and should be in front of the Hague, but they're not. And they won't be. So the only solution is to curb the violent tendency by refusing to let it go there. Diplomacy is the only reasonable course to finding the core of what they want and coming to a bilateral agreement. We're 8.2 billion on this planet. War is no longer something we can weather. We are on self-destruct unless we finally grow out of apehood
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Putin started the war and he's the only one who can stop it. But he refuses.

Prove your claim that Zelensky or Biden is a war criminal.

The solution you're vaguely describing is a new referendum that is monitored by international organizations. That would prove several things. Yes diplomacy and a Bilateral agreement is crucial, and guess who cannot demand anything less than Ukranian surrender. Putin is the problem. Let's be clear now.
 
soap box said:
Putin started the war and he's the only one who can stop it. But he refuses.

Prove your claim that Zelensky or Biden is a war criminal.

The solution you're vaguely describing is a new referendum that is monitored by international organizations. That would prove several things. Yes diplomacy and a Bilateral agreement is crucial, and guess who cannot demand anything less than Ukranian surrender. Putin is the problem. Let's be clear now.
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Actions against Syria make Biden a war criminal according to our laws. Trump as well. Almost all our president's have been for long time now. This is pointed out by other nations in the UN all the time. Our press ignores it.
 
Pyrite said:
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The Russian language does not include indefinite articles.
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I have to say that the English of international ESL Republicans is generally quite good. I just tend to notice little things.
 
Logophile said:
Or the problems are simplified to accommodate limited perceptions. War is an environmental and social aberration that requires an ethical abdication - mostly forced - to make people engage in it. To that end, your simplified "for or against" statement is a typical of violent enforcement aka coercion. The only way to avoid war is to take a broader view of conflicts, understand the underlying causes, and pursue diplomatic solutions. War should only be viewed as a last resort, not a first choice implementation, as it has been in recent years
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Nonsense. We only have the word "peace" because there are occasionally gaps between wars.
 
PIPEWRENCH said:
That is why Russia attacked Crimea when Obama was president and Ukraine when Biden was president. He knows who the pansies are.
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How's it been going with Putin? Has he done what Trump said? Or even listened without smirking?

How about China? Israel?

Nobody gives a shit what Trump wants.
 
Logophile said:
The world is full of war criminals, but I'm not five years old and neither are you, so there's no point in trying to find some black and white version of the truth, replete with your pointy finger, crying "he started it" as if you were in kindergarten. Any leader causing and/or facilitating war with the net result of orchestrating and engaging in it will eventually earn the title of war criminal. Your former president is a war criminal, and Trump is fast approaching it. Putin is a war criminal but so is Zelensky, and Netanyahu certainly fits the bill. All these people treat civilians and all forms of life as nonentities, and they're not. All these people have inflicted huge damage on the environment, on wildlife, murdered innocents including children and contributed to a roasting planet. All these people are guilty and should be in front of the Hague, but they're not. And they won't be. So the only solution is to curb the violent tendency by refusing to let it go there. Diplomacy is the only reasonable course to finding the core of what they want and coming to a bilateral agreement. We're 8.2 billion on this planet. War is no longer something we can weather. We are on self-destruct unless we finally grow out of apehood
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That was a lot of words to say "I am siding with Russia because Goddamn, do I love Putin."
 
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