• This is a political forum that is non-biased/non-partisan and treats every person's position on topics equally. This debate forum is not aligned to any political party. In today's politics, many ideas are split between and even within all the political parties. Often we find ourselves agreeing on one platform but some topics break our mold. We are here to discuss them in a civil political debate. If this is your first visit to our political forums, be sure to check out the RULES. Registering for debate politics is necessary before posting. Register today to participate - it's free!

Iran War Is Shiny New Thing, Ukraine War Is Old Hat - Buhbye Zelensky!

sanman

Banned
DP Veteran
Joined
Nov 22, 2015
Messages
17,399
Reaction score
7,261
Gender
Undisclosed
Political Leaning
Conservative
Hi, your attention please!

We interrupt your precious war that you got yourselves into, with an important announcement.

Your war effort is now canceled. All assistance will be withdrawn, as the agenda now moves on to the next war, which is with Iran.

Thanks for playing, suckers! Ta-ta!
text-green-game-over



For further explanation and elaboration, see the following:




Oh, and

SLAVA UKRAYTHEON!🇺🇦
text-green-game-over
 
Last edited:

You are using a pro-Russian channel to prove that support for Ukraine is diminishing? From the beginning, The Duran has been a platform that questions the Western narrative on Ukraine and Russia, with a focus on highlighting Russian perspectives. They have not been neutral, but have clearly sided with Russia in the conflict, including on the issue of Crimea from the outset. It is highly likely that they are also funded from Russia, although this cannot be confirmed since they do not disclose their sources of funding. Alex Christoforou has participated in several conferences with, among others, Medvedev, and has also lived in Russia, where he studied in Moscow and worked in Crimea.


Yesterday, Canada presented a package to Ukraine, and several European countries have presented record packages in the last months.
 
You are using a pro-Russian channel to prove that support for Ukraine is diminishing? From the beginning, The Duran has been a platform that questions the Western narrative on Ukraine and Russia, with a focus on highlighting Russian perspectives. They have not been neutral, but have clearly sided with Russia in the conflict, including on the issue of Crimea from the outset. It is highly likely that they are also funded from Russia, although this cannot be confirmed since they do not disclose their sources of funding.

What funding? Do they look like they're broadcasting from expensive downtown offices with lavishly-equipped studios?
They use phones and webcams. What funding is needed for that? If ordinary people like them should disclose their funding, then you should disclose yours.

Alex Christoforou has participated in several conferences with, among others, Medvedev, and has also lived in Russia, where he studied in Moscow and worked in Crimea.
Lots of people have misgivings about Nuland's artificially orchestrated war, and are glad to participate in conferences with those whom you've presumptuously labeled the enemy.
(Your enemy, not everyone else's -- you're "Socializing the losses while privatizing the gains" -- trying to prosecute your own personal ethnic war at everyone else's expense and risk)

Alex is a proud Greek, just as you're a proud Ukrainian/Swede/whateverthe****youare
He has every right to stand up for the interest of his own people, as you would for yours.
The difference is that he's not asking everyone to lay down their lives for his people, like you want to turn the world upside down and blow up everything just to cater to your own.


Yesterday, Canada presented a package to Ukraine, and several European countries have presented record packages in the last months.

Canada is headed deeper into bankruptcy, and everybody including Trump knows it (hence 51st state talk)
Europe are likewise headed into decline, and are clinging to a war they know they can't afford (mainly their politicians are, because they feel that's the only way they can hang onto their jobs)

Zelensky knows the war is falling apart, and sees that US focus of effort and machinations will now be on Iran, not on behalf of himself.
Russia getting a massive shot in the arm from oil prices which have surged due to Iran conflict.
They could only go higher in near/medium term, since Iran has long threatened to attack oil infrastructure across entire Middle East if it were attacked.
 
Last edited:
What funding? Do they look like they're broadcasting from expensive downtown offices with lavishly-equipped studios?
Funding disclosure aside, I'm a bit skeptical about their neutrality as well.
1750248034455.webp
1750248059623.webp
1750248072193.webp

I just can't think of any honest YT channel needing to put quotes around every use of invasion or making sure to declare it fake when referring to Russia's invasion of Ukraine. The search also starts coming up empty after Feb. 2022 except when they're clearly talking about something else, like they're dedicated to sticking to the Kremlin line that there's no war that Russia started, that Russia has not invaded Ukraine, etc...

Why do you think they're doing that?
 
You are using a pro-Russian channel to prove that support for Ukraine is diminishing? From the beginning, The Duran has been a platform that questions the Western narrative on Ukraine and Russia, with a focus on highlighting Russian perspectives. They have not been neutral, but have clearly sided with Russia in the conflict, including on the issue of Crimea from the outset. It is highly likely that they are also funded from Russia, although this cannot be confirmed since they do not disclose their sources of funding. Alex Christoforou has participated in several conferences with, among others, Medvedev, and has also lived in Russia, where he studied in Moscow and worked in Crimea.


Yesterday, Canada presented a package to Ukraine, and several European countries have presented record packages in the last months.
Let him have his wet dreams of Ukriane being conquered after all it doesnt change reality
 
I'm truly sorry, but you are delusional. Support for Ukraine is growing, just as Putin's strength and support is waning. Putin's megalomaniacal stupidity has done more to unite Europe than any other foreign adventurism since the dissolution of the USSR, including already growing NATO by two more nations, and a short list waiting in the wings. Despite your efforts at propaganda, nobody knows better than Europe the kind of threat he poses, and he will be stopped.

With the most recent Ukrainian military successes, Putin is now fearing for his life, unable to trust even people in his own Kremlin. If things continue as they have been, don't be surprised if Vladimir is thrown out of a window or radioactively poisoned by this time next year. Russian oligarchs and upper military echelons don't want to wait until some drone is flying up their own asses. He can back down and back out, or he can perish.

You're on the wrong side of this conflict.
 
Hi, your attention please!

We interrupt your precious war that you got yourselves into, with an important announcement.

Your war effort is now canceled. All assistance will be withdrawn, as the agenda now moves on to the next war, which is with Iran.

Thanks for playing, suckers! Ta-ta!
text-green-game-over



For further explanation and elaboration, see the following:




Oh, and

SLAVA UKRAYTHEON!🇺🇦
text-green-game-over


If the US is no longer sending support to Ukraine, how is the war in Iran going to change that. How is Putin better off today than he was yesterday?
 
Hi, your attention please!

We interrupt your precious war that you got yourselves into, with an important announcement.

Your war effort is now canceled. All assistance will be withdrawn, as the agenda now moves on to the next war, which is with Iran.

Thanks for playing, suckers! Ta-ta!
text-green-game-over
Sorry. You are wrong. Trump had already moved the Ukraine/Russia thing to the back burner weeks ago when neither side made any effort to work toward an end to the war.
 
Hi, your attention please!

We interrupt your precious war that you got yourselves into, with an important announcement.

Your war effort is now canceled. All assistance will be withdrawn, as the agenda now moves on to the next war, which is with Iran.

Thanks for playing, suckers! Ta-ta!
text-green-game-over



For further explanation and elaboration, see the following:




Oh, and

SLAVA UKRAYTHEON!🇺🇦
text-green-game-over

It never ceases to amaze me how flippant some people are about human beings.
 
If the US is no longer sending support to Ukraine, how is the war in Iran going to change that. How is Putin better off today than he was yesterday?
He's gonna hurt. Most of the electronics for Iranian drones were still coming from Iran.
 
505453164_18364090438179752_3162957187616357675_n.webp

Just waiting to be told what to be poutraged over....
 
It never ceases to amaze me how flippant some people are about human beings.
Many of us used to picking up pieces of human beings and/or seeing just how brutal the world really is often learn to be flippant as a defense mechanism/survival tool. On then other hand...how 'flippant' do you have to be when your poutrage comes and goes with the latest headlines?
 
Hi, your attention please!

We interrupt your precious war that you got yourselves into, with an important announcement.

Your war effort is now canceled. All assistance will be withdrawn, as the agenda now moves on to the next war, which is with Iran.

Thanks for playing, suckers! Ta-ta!
text-green-game-over



For further explanation and elaboration, see the following:




Oh, and

SLAVA UKRAYTHEON!🇺🇦
text-green-game-over

I'm not sure I've ever encountered anyone (real life or internet) that cheers so much for Putin (who murders children).

Maybe some Russians are out there doing it but that's probably about it.
 
Last edited:
Many of us used to picking up pieces of human beings and/or seeing just how brutal the world really is often learn to be flippant as a defense mechanism/survival tool. On then other hand...how 'flippant' do you have to be when your poutrage comes and goes with the latest headlines?
Are you saying that MAGAs, who think Ukrainians aren't worth any compassion, are combat veterans? Combat vets lost their ability to empathize?
That's an excuse?
What about the interwebs tigers who haven't?

I've seen and treated enough maimed people in emergency rooms but they made me more compassionate not less.
 
I'm not sure I've ever encountered anyone (real life or internet) that cheers so much for Putin (who murders children).

Maybe some Russians are out there doing it but that's probably about it.

You want to see someone who murders children?

1750273318947.webp

Why you cheering for her?


SLAVA UKRAYTHEON
 
"Got yourselves into"

Right wingers can never not use abuser rapist logic and reverse the role of victim and perpetrator.

Nuland did her coup, and their fools rushed in where wise men fear to tread, unleashing the tumult that's followed.
NeoCons are the rapists. They raped Iraq. They raped Libya. They raped Syria. Now they've raped Ukraine.
Nuland & Co were behind every one of those events, and you not only couldn't care less, you've actually embraced her.
Once upon a time, you used to condemn these people as "right wingers" but now you've rehabilitated them and don't like to criticize them anymore. I wonder why?

Their cronies still inside the Deep State are about to rape Iran. Go on, enjoy it - you love the show.
 
Nuland did her coup, and their fools rushed in where wise men fear to tread, unleashing the tumult that's followed.
NeoCons are the rapists. They raped Iraq. They raped Libya. They raped Syria. Now they've raped Ukraine.
Nuland & Co were behind every one of those events, and you not only couldn't care less, you've actually embraced her.
Once upon a time, you used to condemn these people as "right wingers" but now you've rehabilitated them and don't like to criticize them anymore. I wonder why?

Their cronies still inside the Deep State are about to rape Iran. Go on, enjoy it - you love the show.
Putin was the fool that "rushed in" to Ukraine like he owned it. Now a million Russians are gone and he controls less territory in Ukraine than in 2022. His army is incompetent and corrupt so all he can do is kill Ukrainian women and children in the vain hope that Ukraine will surrender to his genocide. It's never going to happen and a million more Russians will die in Ukraine before this is all over. That is the only bright side of this war....it will mean the end of the Russian Federation and millions of good (dead) Russians. First Syria then Iran and Russia is next.
 
Back
Top Bottom