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As many of us have said since the "deal" was inked, it was extremely foolish to trust Iran to be diplomatic about their weapons desires in exchange for a reduction in sanctions (and/or continued better relations.)
Not sure I completely buy the FoxNews article, as they have a vested interest in anything anti-Obama administration, but we have always had reason to be cautious in dealing with Iran. In all fairness, it looks like this particular missile test / missile technology was not covered by the agreement. It does not look like Iran has the present capability to deliver a nuclear weapon in that missile system.
We should still be concerned but if the agreement did not cover this type of testing, why are we upset?
Oh, no! It can't be. Not our buddies, Iran. Another failure for Obama. Not that this deal wasn't bad enough already. This what happens when you have a bunch of bumbling fools taking on tasks that are way out of their league.
Iran to US: Missile program ?not open to negotiation? | Fox News
Iran’s foreign minister said Sunday the Islamic Republic’s ballistic missile program is “not open to negotiation” with the United States, seemingly spurning an overture from Secretary of State John Kerry.
What a joke this administration is.
why should we expect iran to abandon an ABM program when its nemesis in the region possesses an arsenal of nuclear weapons
the iranian government properly recognizes its obligation to defend its population from iran's arch enemy
however, there is a way to get iran to concede on the ABM point: ensuring that israel's military strength is reduced to parity with iran's
otherwise, to expect iran to pass on ABM development is as reasonable as expecting it to take a knife to a gun fight
[emphasis added by bubba]Yes, why should they comply when our morons negotiated a deal that allows them to build non nuke missiles? And, of course, Iran will build missiles that are nuke capable, because they have no fear of our feckless, incompetent, weak spined President and his administration.
[emphasis again added by bubba]Never has one President been told so early, so often, by members of both parties, that what he wanted to do would be a complete disaster. He did it anyway, because he thinks he is smarter than everyone, when he really is a fool, and it's shown to be a complete disaster, over and over. Not one good thing has come from this deal, at least for the Ammerican people.
So we can bash Obama?
So we can bash Obama?
Does Iran not have the right to self-defense? They are a sovereign country after all.
This isn't about fairness. We wouldn't look at North Korea and say "Well, it's a sovereign country and they are surrounded by potentially hostile powers..." They are surrounded by hostile powers because of the character of their regime and their intentions. Likewise for Iran, primarily the latter point.
Ah, I see. If they don't want America to murder them, they have to be open to other enemies murdering them. Got it.
I can see why they refuse to have a discussion about their non-nuke missiles.
Yes. We don't want our enemies and those who imperil the global liberal order we're attempting to construct to become more powerful. To think otherwise is to assert a kindergarten sense of equity, afterall I don't suppose you think North Korea deserves it's nuclear weapons---in the name of fairness of course.
LOL! This is totally hilarious!
It was American imperialism that had a hand in creating the Iran we see now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat
As the rest of your ridiculous post, every nation has the right to self-defense. That's reality. Not to mention the fact that it's Iran that's out there fighting ISIS.
It's your fear driven believe that a country that cannot harm America or it's allies in any substantial way must be totally brought to heel. That's the state Iraq is now in. Look what that brought us.
LOL! This is totally hilarious!
It was American imperialism that had a hand in creating the Iran we see now.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1953_Iranian_coup_d%27%C3%A9tat
As the rest of your ridiculous post, every nation has the right to self-defense. That's reality. Not to mention the fact that it's Iran that's out there fighting ISIS.
It's your fear driven believe that a country that cannot harm America or it's allies in any substantial way must be totally brought to heel. That's the state Iraq is now in. Look what that brought us.
You didn't answer my question. Do you think North Korea is entitled to having nuclear weapons in order to counter-balance its neighbors? Surely thats the only fair approach.
No one is entitled to anything.
If they have the know-how to make a nuke, that's on them. But, we should try our best to convince them otherwise... without threatening to murder them if they don't obey.
If you say so.Oh? You're trying to thread a needle here and it isn't making sense.
If they aren't entitled to anything then what prohibits us from doing what we can to try and stop them? Surely we would have benefited from using everything, including threats and coercion, to halt the rearmament of Germany in the 1930's.
No one and no country is entitled to anything... period.en·ti·tled
inˈtīdld,enˈtīdld/
adjective
believing oneself to be inherently deserving of privileges or special treatment.
Iran has the right to self-defense. They aren't a threat to America. They've made no overtures to attack America. We've no need to fear them. Our fear of Iran is grossly disproportionate to the threat they actually propose. In my opinion, this is a work program for the military industrial complex.Likewise we choose to apply economic, political, and yes the threat of military consequences to deter our enemies from acquiring more military power. Countries like North Korea... and Iran. Yes?
If you say so.
No one and no country is entitled to anything... period.
Wow. Comparing Iran to Germany. Who has Iran invaded? Right... no one. They aren't aggressive. Iran isn't going to actually defeat any ally America has. They aren't a threat. Germany on the other hand was a global threat. Not comparable.
Now if they were threatening and were an actual danger, then we'd have cause to go after them.
Treat actual threats as threats. Those missiles are not a danger to Israel, America or anyone we're cool with.
Iran has the right to self-defense. They aren't a threat to America. They've made no overtures to attack America. We've no need to fear them. Our fear of Iran is grossly disproportionate to the threat they actually propose. In my opinion, this is a work program for the military industrial complex.
How much money did we give Iran again?
So we can bash Obama?
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