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GarzaUK said:I know there is a thread in todays news, but I'm starting a new one here.
I think we all heard the news about Iran breaking the UN seals. I personally I'm very nervous about Iran (especially now) and as a last resort I would consider going to war as Iran REALLY IS a threat - unlike Iraq. Iran has the missile technology to bomb Israel and Europe and a nuke at the end of one of those missiles terrify me. Iran has played this carefully I've been reading people's different reaction - war, sanctions. Thought I'd have a go and break down those options.
War with Iran
~Invasion should wipe out the nuclear threat
~Iran is not like the flat deserts of Iraq. Mountains and hills prevail - a guerillas dream. Great for ambushes, great for hiding.
~I'm afraid Iran's army is not a little better than Iraq's army, it is ALOT better. It is the 8th largest army in the world and one of the world's most powerful. 350,000 active soldiers, 220,00 conscripts and millions with 2 years military experience (compulsory). Of course America has better technology, but hey we learned in Iraq that doesn't count for much.
~Notice Bush hasn't mention war. No-one can remember a time when America was this weak, spread thin. Draft might be needed.
~No-one knows how dissent Iranians will react
Bomb Nuclear infrastructure
This seems a good half-way solution however:
~Western Intelligence in Iran is close to zero. It is an impossibility to find all nuclear sites hidden. There is more than likely facilities underneath the mountains and sattilites can't penetrate rock.
~We have no idea how dissent Iranians will react
~Iranian invasion of Iraq? Not likely but possible.
UN Sanctions
~Iran is in a strong place. One of the biggest oil producers in the world, majority of Russian and Chinese oil imports come from Iran. China and Russia could veto sanctions.
~The madmen in charge of Iran don't care as it will be the poor that will suffer i.e. the Iranian dissents
~Unlikely to stop nuke production
I think it's safe to say that the President of Iran has us by the balls. :shock:
GarzaUK said:UN Sanctions
~Iran is in a strong place. One of the biggest oil producers in the world, majority of Russian and Chinese oil imports come from Iran. China and Russia could veto sanctions.
~The madmen in charge of Iran don't care as it will be the poor that will suffer i.e. the Iranian dissents
~Unlikely to stop nuke production
Napoleon's Nightingale said:I don't understand why we're even discussing war with Iran. Iran is not our problem..Iran is Israel's problem. Let Israel resolve it's own international issues for a change.
bucket said:How is this an international issue with Israel?
bucket said:which seems to kind of fall into line with your own views.
And that's it?...That's the logic?...Napoleon's Nightingale said:Because Israel is the only country that would be threatened by Iran's nuclear capabilities. Because Iran's stated position is that Israel should be wipped off the face of the earth.
Napoleon's Nightingale said:I don't understand why we're even discussing war with Iran. Iran is not our problem..Iran is Israel's problem. Let Israel resolve it's own international issues for a change.
Napoleon's Nightingale said:Because Israel is the only country that would be threatened by Iran's nuclear capabilities. Because Iran's stated position is that Israel should be wipped off the face of the earth.
cnredd said:Keep believing that...
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