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So now your premise is that despite them being longtime customers, (and gay), only now when a wedding cake was requested did the bakery suddenly decide to discriminate against the couple?
Thats makes sense. :roll:
Well, you're entitled to your own silly opinions.
No, they actually saw a threat to their businesses and their employees.
Another person at a place I also post at did a very good job of explaining it:
"Really, lets see, lets walk you through how a corporation could bolt.
I am a design sheet metal company specializing in high end artistic sheet metal fabrication. I have a staff of 100 employees, 10 of my employees happen to be gay. I'm going to expand my business and I'm looking for States that have attributes: low taxes, good labor pool, cheap cost of living, decent living standards...
oh, wait a minute. If I move my business to Indiana, my 10 gay employees are going to face State Sanctioned discrimination. Realtors can legally refuse to sell them a house, Apartment owners can refuse to lease to them, restaurants can legally refuse to serve them food. In fact, because I harbor these "gays" my business can legally be discriminated against. Suppliers in Indiana can legally choose to not sell to me.
So why would I move my Business to Indiana? I guess I could move then cross my fingers and "hope" no one discriminates against my business or my employees because if they do I'd have no recourse under Indiana law."
Yeah i used to have a modicum of respect for libertarians, but no more
That's an event. Thanks for that admission. And that the couple had purchased products there before, it obviously has nothing to do with the persons
How often does that San Francisco company send people to Indiana? This is just nothing. Other companies will gladly pick up their customers in Indiana.
Thats simply untrue.
this **** is out of control already. we can't afford a national outrage here in Indiana. there are too many people already struggling.
this law was completely unnecessary, and it was a response to gay marriage being made legal. i shouldn't have to waste time swatting off right wingers who want to die on the hill of gay marriage or left wingers who seem to feel like boycotting the entire state will do anything other than hurting the very Hoosiers that they are pretending to want to help.
And both are based on discrimination based on the intended use of the product, not the person
That would depend on the political situation in Arkansas. I have been to SW Missouri and NW Arkansas which IIRC is where Walmart is based. They likely hold significant power there, and the state is not consistently Republican or Democrat, so that would be up to him.
this **** is out of control already. we can't afford a national outrage here in Indiana. there are too many people already struggling.
this law was completely unnecessary, and it was a response to gay marriage being made legal. i shouldn't have to waste time swatting off right wingers who want to die on the hill of gay marriage or left wingers who seem to feel like boycotting the entire state will do anything other than hurting the very Hoosiers that they are pretending to want to help.
yes, yes i am.... and you're entitled to support idiocy like boycotting an entire state over fear of a bogeyman.
It's hard to believe, but these Neanderthals actually believe that. No right is more sacred to them than property rights.
which makes boycotting the entire state extremely childish.... i mean, who the hell boycotts businesses they agree with?... dumb dumb dumb.The surprising part to me is how many GOP-supporting corporations and businesses WITHIN the state of Indiana are against the law.
When NASCAR speaks, who's next--Country Music stars.
good on him... .somebody had to get out in front and lead a battle with the feds over lands...I'd much rather have a different character out in front, but i'll take what I can get.Btw, I see Bundy is back at it in Nevada .
Actually I totally agree with you even if I don't live there. I feel personally that the boycotts of the state, as a whole, are uncalled for. A better thing to do would be to support the businesses that say openly "we serve everyone", that have no discriminatory practices. And boycott the government if you must. Now, I personally have no reason to travel to Indiana, so I won't likely be going there any time soon enough to put these into practice myself. Now, this all being said, I can understand the businesses though that have halted their plans to expand into Indiana due to this law. They seem to be trying to protect their employees, rather than to make a political statement. This type of law could cause issues with their employees who are gay, to the point where they lose talented professionals simply because others aren't treating them fairly within the community.
Evidence of this claim. The laws say otherwise.
I'm absolutely amazed at the unforced errors of the GOP since they won the election.
It's clear to me that the executive order by Obama completely unnerved the GOP--you're astute enough to see this.
The Coats seat is certainly up for grabs in Indiana now.
DEMs have two problems in my mind right now, besides the swift-boating of Hillary.
1. How to sort out all the GOP guffaws since the election.
2. Beginning early on with their bash ads, just as the Kochs did in the summer of 2013 .
Actually I totally agree with you even if I don't live there. I feel personally that the boycotts of the state, as a whole, are uncalled for. A better thing to do would be to support the businesses that say openly "we serve everyone", that have no discriminatory practices. And boycott the government if you must. Now, I personally have no reason to travel to Indiana, so I won't likely be going there any time soon enough to put these into practice myself. Now, this all being said, I can understand the businesses though that have halted their plans to expand into Indiana due to this law. They seem to be trying to protect their employees, rather than to make a political statement. This type of law could cause issues with their employees who are gay, to the point where they lose talented professionals simply because others aren't treating them fairly within the community.
if you travel here, go to the dunes in Chesterton. that is one of my favorite places in the world. as for all of this other bull****, it is mostly just making me tired. i have to fight off idiots on both sides who want to bend this into their go team two party worldview. it's just so ****ing stupid. there are actually a lot of cool things to do here, and pretty things to see.
hogwash... you're state is full of anti-gay bigots who want nothing more than to deny services to gays... admit it.. ADMIT IT!!
:lol:
my state is full of folks who mostly just want to come home from work and have a beer with you at the bar. if you're ever around here, i can tell you about some cool places to check out.
are there any business that are actually discriminating against gays in Indiana.. or fighting for the right to?
are there any who discriminate and are planning to move to Indiana?
I think people in haste to argue that this law is going to make the gay sky fall forgot to check if there is actually a problem afoot.
personally, I'd wager about 99.99999999999999999% of Indianans would act correct, regardless of this law....I can't fathom that whole state being chock full of anti-gay bigots just chomping at the bit waiting for a "permit" to discriminate.
this **** is getting blown waaay out of proportion.
I got another lefty dream case for you-physician who refuses to write a script for abortifacients to straight people but will to gay couples.
How would you guys handle that one?
Doctors may not discriminate against gays and lesbians in medical treatment, even if the procedures being sought conflict with physicians' religious beliefs, the California Supreme Court decided unanimously Monday.
The state high court said the doctors' constitutional rights to freedom of religion did not trump the state antidiscrimination law because the state has a compelling interest in ensuring full and equal access to medical care.
For nearly a year starting in August of 1999, Guadalupe "Lupita" Benitez was denied infertility treatment by the North Coast Women's Care Medical Group because she is a lesbian. Her former doctors are conservative Christians who claim their religious beliefs give them a right to withhold care from Benitez that they routinely provide to heterosexual patients. With Lambda Legal's help, Benitez has been fighting this injustice. The case is currently before the California State Supreme Court The highest state court in the state court system on the question whether individual antigay religious beliefs allow doctors to violate the state civil rights law that applies to commercial businesses, including for-profit medical clinics like North Coast Women's Care.
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