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Riiiiiiiiight.
How many men (conservatives or liberals) are going to rush out to proudly declare to all their friends "hey guys!!! Great news!!! I just found out my son is gay!"? How many women are just super happy for that news?
Gotcha. So he not only presented as a bigot and a homophobe (which was aiiiiiight with liberals) but he is a liar and hypocrite with no principles, morals, and values as well.I think it's fair to say Obama's "beliefs" are political as the wind blows.
No, your dishonest misrepresentations are nonsense along with the irrelevant cases you cite.
Do you believe it is possible to disagree with a lifestyle choice, believe that gay marriage is wrong, yet still manage to love care and hope for the other persons happiness...even if their beliefs do not agree with yours?
Gotcha. So he not only presented as a bigot and a homophobe (which was aiiiiiight with liberals) but he is a liar and hypocrite with no principles, morals, and values as well.
OK...I can see that.
But the point wasnt really ABOUT Obama (and it seldom is). The point was about the fact that his position mirrored many if not a majority of conservatives on gay marriage and homosexuality, and for some reason...left leaning folks are real quick to toss out the whole bigot/homophobe thing....to conservatives.
No. I disagree. I wouldn't care if my daughters were gay. I would care about the difficulties they would face from the types of right wing assholes like this.
The difference is, and I'm not taking sides, is that one group is blatantly homophobic and continues to be, while the other came around to reason, yes, Obama may have been a "homophobe" at some point, but at least he realized he needed to adopt a more progressive stance.
Riiiiiiiiight.
How many men (conservatives or liberals) are going to rush out to proudly declare to all their friends "hey guys!!! Great news!!! I just found out my son is gay!"? How many women are just super happy for that news? No...what you DO get a lot of is...'you know...we love you know matter what and we just want you to be happy'. Usually that is said with an almost smile and the tears dont come until later.
Ya know though...we could always put it to the test. A national vote...single issue, not tied to candidates or anything else. Decision made once and for all and good luck to both sides. Right? What percentage of blacks would vote for gay marriage? What percentage of hispanics? Oh...I hear the response already (because the dialogue has already been had here). "'Rights' shouldnt be subject to a vote or majority rule." Because you know better. Were it not for court intervention, there would still be 33+ states with laws either banning gay marriage or clarifying marriage as only between a man and a woman.
But...but...the POLLS...right?
So...they should put it to a vote. Right?
Gotcha. So he not only presented as a bigot and a homophobe (which was aiiiiiight with liberals) but he is a liar and hypocrite with no principles, morals, and values as well.
OK...I can see that.
But the point wasnt really ABOUT Obama (and it seldom is). The point was about the fact that his position mirrored many if not a majority of conservatives on gay marriage and homosexuality, and for some reason...left leaning folks are real quick to toss out the whole bigot/homophobe thing....to conservatives.
No one should face harassment. But its more than just what they might face from others and you know it. I bvleiev you would accept her. I highly doubt thats what you had hoped for her.No. I disagree. I wouldn't care if my daughters were gay. I would care about the difficulties they would face from the types of right wing assholes like this.
Lol, I love how idiotic that term is.
Here's a link to a resource on California regulations in doing business. Find the correlating site that is relevant to the state you live in and go through the regulations carefully. We wouldn't want any of them to supercede your religious freedoms now, would we?
Regulations
Sorry, but our daughters are going to face terrible assholes left and right, gay or straight. Sexuality is just one more thing in the bag of insults for those sort of folks. It's not the only thing.
And dollars to donuts everyone featured in that photo is a left wing asshat.
You just made my point.Wrong.
That's not the way that things work in the USA.
This will all be sorted out by the U.S. Supreme Court.
Wait and see.
Yes, now prove the irrational fear bit. This should be fun. :lamo
- Multiple applications.It can be expressed as antipathy, contempt, prejudice, aversion, or hatred, may be based on irrational fear, and is sometimes related to religious beliefs.[4]
How is making food taking part in anything else but making food?
- Multiple applications.
And if you believe that I have some waterfront in the Mohave for you.
You just made my point.
BTW, I have long ago said we will reach a point where the SCOTUS will decide in favor of gay marriage at some point and time. I think they have shown tremendous cowardice in refusing to take it on before now. And when it does...the sun will still come out tomorrow.
I make my arguments based on doing the right thing by all. I don't hide behind legal definition to justify infringing on a persons personal and religious beliefs, just as I didn't hide behind them when gay people wanted the right to marry.
Being "free" in America, doesn't mean that everyone must accept everything that everyone engages in, or be forced to take part in anything they find objectionable... It means that people are free to engage in the things they want, and believe in the things they want (as long as they aren't endangering the physical safety or the lives of others) without being fear of government persecution for doing so. Forcing people of faith to participate in a ceremony that is sacrilegious to their beliefs is against everything this nation was founded upon.
Catering food for a gay wedding, is choosing to participate in and/or contribute to that wedding ceremony.
This isn't rocket science here, just common sense stuff.
Yes, and I asked you to prove one of them. You know, the one that gives the term the punch it has.
That's your opinion. When I paint someone's portrait I don't think that I'm condoning, approving of or taking part in their life. To me that constitutes the highest order of arrogance.
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