Yes. That means that Christians (Muslims, Jews, etc.) can't be turned away on the basis of their being Christian.
But they can be forced to violate their religious beliefs or be run out of business. That's what the gaystapo calls religious freedom
Yet another example of liberal tolerance. You gotta love itI'm just sorry that all of you forced to do business with gays are going to hell. Can you just go to confession afterwards or something?
How is making food taking part in anything else but making food?You are again wrong.. It's not refusing to cater to two homosexual individuals,.. It's refusing to take part in their marriage ceremony, which violates the tenets of their religion.
A name like O’Connor? Owner of a Pizzeria?
They deserve to close. :shock:
Funny...I've been to 49 of the 50 states and a large part fo the world and Indiana is one of the last places I think of when I think of overt racism. Certainly less than in say...Hawaii, or in major cities like Boston, New York, Philadelphia (yikes!), Chicago, etc.I have traveled extensively in my career. I've been to 48 states. Most numerous times including Indiana. I have never personally seen more overt racism than in Indiana. This situation surprises me none.
To your question, yes it's possible. But I do not think for a minute that's what this is.
Not in an orderly civilized society. Bigotry belongs to cave men.Freedom includes the ability and the right to discriminate whether it's religious freedom or otherwise
I don't condone threats or violence. That was a miniscule minority involved in that behavior. The bottom line to all of this though is that America stood up and said that in 2015 we will no longer accept bigotry and discrimination against our citizens. The American people forced a change in the law and freedom, honor and dignity won out. Any time one of these attempts raises its head again....America will stand up again.A small price to pay? A remarkable conclusion.
America stood up, I agree. As to Freedom and Justice, I guess that depends on whether Freedom and Justice in this specific matter can be found inside fear and threats of violence.
No no. He has a point. See...I personally think people are foolish for making bad business decisions. Thats just my opinion. BUT...if they REALLY dont want to and are FORCED to by law, well...there is a nice, time honored ploy that is as effective today as it was 35 years ago when I was a kid at fast food restaurants and had to make food for people that would give you ****. Make their food, but then make sure you are the one that hands it to them and make sure you smile at them and tell them to ENJOY that food...it was made with extra special 'love' reserved just for such occasions. And then tell them to have a GREAT day.Yet another example of liberal tolerance. You gotta love it
You are being dishonest.
prometeus never made such an assertion. What he said was
Please do not delude yourself. Thee are countless enterprises that only accept specific clientele because their owners did not want to deal with the public and were intelligent enough to avoid controversy. Clearly the ownership of this particular pizza place lacks such intellectual fortitude. One needs not go any further than listen to the interview and it becomes glaringly obvious that they are just plain ignorant bigots.The Left can't stand the fact that shops like Memories Pizza can stay in business and not cave to the homosexual agenda.
Please do not delude yourself. Thee are countless enterprises that only accept specific clientele because their owners did not want to deal with the public and were intelligent enough to avoid controversy. Clearly the ownership of this particular pizza place lacks such intellectual fortitude. One needs not go any further than listen to the interview and it becomes glaringly obvious that they are just plain ignorant bigots.
:lamo:lamo:lamo the vast majority of a small minority.I believe the vast majority of us are of the category that believes homoesxuality is wrong and do not support gay marriage
I love it when you guys say that someone can exercise their religion all they want, except when the left decides they can't
Define that. What do you think is the 'small minority'...the number of people opposed to gay marriage?:lamo:lamo:lamo the vast majority of a small minority.
No, being so utterly stupid is not a sin, just most unfortunate. Maybe we can hope that they could learn from all this, though I confess I have my doubts.So their their sin is in their being honest due to a lack of intelligence?
How terrible. :roll:
How is making food taking part in anything else but making food?
There is no "vast majority" that thinks homosexuality is wrong.Define that. What do you think is the 'small minority'...the number of people opposed to gay marriage?
Try a gay bakery and they may ask you for specifics, but unless you are attempting to score a meaningless point for some vagina worshiping cult, I fail to see the relevance.If I walk into a bakery and ask the baker to make me a "penis cake" as a, um, gag gift for a party that's just making food, too, isn't it? Is he discriminating against me if he refuses?
Yet another example of liberal tolerance. You gotta love it
If I walk into a bakery and ask the baker to make me a "penis cake" as a, um, gag gift for a party that's just making food, too, isn't it? Is he discriminating against me if he refuses?
From a public policy standpoint, most people fear homosexuality because of the potential health and moral implications such a lifestyle could bring.
On the health front, there is the obvious - AIDS/HIV.
From a moral perspective, there's the potential breakdown of the sanctity of marriage.
In the minds of many, both situations have the potential of eroding the fabric of society and traditional marriage. This above all is what many fear most about the LGBT community. Problem here is more people die of cancer than they do of AIDS, and even without adding homosexuality into the equation more marriage still fail due to money problems, physical abuse and infidelity with a member of the opposite sex than they do from discovering that their former spouse is gay or lesbian or has some other deep, dark sexual demon in their closet.
While I agree with those who see homosexuality as a sin, I'm also of the view that this is their life and as long as no one of that lifestyle attempts to impose themselves on me personally, I adhere to the tenant "hate the sin, love the sinner".
Sidenote: I have a couple of gay friends - one male, the other female. As friendships, social interactions and casual associations go, if they aren't having public displays of affections, i.e., holding hands or kissing their significant other, I've found them to be just as normal as anyone else.
When the government forces you to provide a service you don't want to provide, it's tyranny
Riiiiiiiiight.There is no "vast majority" that thinks homosexuality is wrong.
Funny...I've been to 49 of the 50 states and a large part fo the world and Indiana is one of the last places I think of when I think of overt racism. Certainly less than in say...Hawaii, or in major cities like Boston, New York, Philadelphia (yikes!), Chicago, etc.
I believe the vast majority of us are of the category that believes homoesxuality is wrong and do not support gay marriage but do love and care for and hope for their happiness. Thats just me, but then...Im not desperately seeking 'homophobia'. I find it literally laugh out loud funny the number of people that shriek and wail against conservatives that hold such positions when those positions almost exactly mirror the 'unevolved' beliefs of the democrat they voted for and put into the WH in 2008.
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