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Also doubtful that the "donations" show what the american public thinks.
Sure, but I don't see any LBGT causes getting that kind of money in such a short time period either.
Again, what does that have to do with the perception of the american public?
Not a thing.
Is discrimination based on another's sexuality ok?
Americans don't donate money to bigots, they donate it to people who have been wrongly abused and victimized.
There is a fundamental difference between a organization advocating pedophilia and 2 homosexual individuals.
I don't think the money was donated to LGBT in Indiana.
You are correct, but what does that have to do with this topic?
I was showing that refusing to cater a NAMBLA party is a moral objection to pedophilia, not discriminatory action against homosexuals....the same way the Pizzeria not wanting to cater a gay wedding is a religious objection to same-sex marriage, not discriminatory action against homosexuals... Neither of those discriminates against gay people.
That's correct... Now connect the dots... I know you can do it.
But you said the money was donated to the victims of discrimination?:shrug:
Is discrimination based on another's sexuality ok?
as an immutable attribute... I don't believe it is.
though with the ability to change sex and gender by elective surgery, even that can get a lil muddy, depending on circumstance.
have to do with this thread?though with the ability to change sex and gender by elective surgery, even that can get a lil muddy, depending on circumstance.
Shh, they're victims of people that are pointing out that they are bigots, which makes those people bigots. Wat.
If you object to gay marriage, good for you (Though you really should get out of the past..) but it won't harm you to cater and give pizza to a gay couple's wedding....
Wait, what does this: have to do with this thread?
That's your opinion, and you're entitled to it, but I disagree. I would never, never cater a pro-abortion event or support it in any way. Principles are just words unless you live by them. And if you have to die by them, well, there's that too.
Sorry, but that comment doesn't seem to apply. Discrimination is part of freedom. Forcing someone to engage in an activity that violates their conscience is tyrannyDiscriminating against someone for something that is natural is not forcing tyranny on you.
Yes, and what kind of precadent are we going to be setting again with these so called "religious freedom" laws?
Sorry, but that comment doesn't seem to apply. Discrimination is part of freedom. Forcing someone to engage in an activity that violates their conscience is tyranny
That's tyranny indeedWhat I'm getting at is that we can't allow businesses to have the option to discriminate at all.
Whether it's OK or not is not the issue. Thge issue is whether people should have the freedom to discriminate or notIs discrimination based on another's sexuality ok?
The actions against the pizza shop owners show us what the liberal public thinksAlso doubtful that the "donations" show what the american public thinks.
the pizza parlor folks were in fact victims in this whole thing... they did absolutely nothing illegal, yet they were run out of business by those whom levied death threats, arson threats, made false orders by phone, and basically bullied them all over hell and back...... all with the open support of people who pretend to oppose intolerance, bullying, and bigotry.
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