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I am sorry I still don't see how anecdotal testimony from one man who was caught in a sex scandal means your claim is correct.Yeah. I don't know why it didn't work.
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Ted Haggard Blames Sex Scandal on Child Abuse - YouTube
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If they were not gay because they were molested, does that mean they were molested because they were gay?
Would you put Ted Haggard in this category? Is he a gay person that was molested? Is it a total coincidence that he is a gay person and has absolutely nothing to do with his childhood experience?
I'm just saying that if a person has pleasurable male on male gay sex with a little child the child will become gay. That's all I am saying.
This is what I am not saying. I am not saying that all gay people have sex with children. I am not saying that the only gay people are those who were molested as children.
I guess the accusation of you think that pedophilia was ok was unfounded, disrespectful and unfair. Let me rephrase it into a question: Do you think it is ok for men to have consensual sex with 7 year old boys if the 7 year old boys are ok with it? If not, would you be thrilled out of your mind if the molested boys learned to enjoy male on male sex as a little child even though it was very likely that they would never be exposed to it otherwise? If not, would you be pissed if the child wasn't molested and never became gay?
These are just three really odd questions that you will dodge because you don't want me to destroy your worldview. Put your fingers in your ears and say, "la la la la. I can't hear you." Don't take those fingers out of your ear because I firmly believe that when a child is sodomized in a pleasurable fashion then he will become gay with 100% certainty. That pisses me off. I bet it doesn't bother you in the least bit. You can ignore this if you want but it does happen to children every single day. They become gay as a result of a predator.
I don't really think there's a way to sodomize a child that's pleasurable for the child. Interesting hypothesis. Does it cut both ways, if a girl who would be a lesbian has her first pleasurable sexual encounter as a child with a man, does that mean she'll be straight?
Just no, no , no, and no. No one is gay because they were molested as a child.
Just no, no , no, and no. No one is gay because they were molested as a child.
I'm pretty well convinced that nobody in the LGBT community or any community would actually be pleased that a child has been "turned gay" by a pedo.
The original post clearly mentioned bi-sexual, etc. There was no mention of emotions whatsoever, only other sexual/gender preferences. What was that about context again?My point was that it technically means both.
It's all a matter of the context it was stated in.
It probably would. So?We are attempting here to define people based on behaviors.
Constraining the definition to "exclusively gay" will not paint a very accurate picture. If we do, then by inverse comparison we should define straight as, exclusively heterosexual without exception.
The resultant statistic will leave a very large segment to fall in between.
It probably would. So?
No, I don't. You're over-thinking the question.Well, if the definition extended to people who have ever had sexual fantasies about the same sex, or who had ever acted on those fantasies, then I reckon I'd have to vote 'Greater than 15%', but it would be much, much greater than 15%. If it was limited to those who are publicly and openly gay-identified then it would be less that 15%, no doubt. See why I didn't vote?
No, I don't. You're over-thinking the question.
In your estimation, what percentage of the population is gay?
You need to watch the Nyan Cat video. It is VERY relevant.
However, don't watch this video at 0:57 - 1:42
I'm sorry but I believe the man that raped Ted Haggard should have had his left arm chopped off the first year, his right arm chopped off the second year, his left leg chopped off the third year, his right leg chopped off the fourth year, he should have been beat repeatedly every day for the next five years, then he should sit in prison for one more year in solitary confinement and then he should be executed in the 11th year.
You probably think that he deserves a medal for recruiting another sodomite. Hell, you'll probably deny that he recruited him.
If you would have asked this same question to me 2 years ago then I would have estimated less than 1%. Now I'm thinking it's closer to 5%. This coming out trend is becoming so popular that it has shifted my worldview. There is way more gay people than I ever thought in the past.
The medal should go to his lover, for exposing a massive hypocrite and the futility of homophobia, yes
I'm just suggesting that a child that has pleasant consensual gay sex with a grown man will become gay. I'm not saying that all gay men have pleasant consensual sex with little 7 year old boys.
I'd probably say that accounts for less than 0.1% of gay men. Ted Haggard enjoyed the sex he had as a 7 year old boy. I doubt that he was going to call the police.
Statutory rape rarely gets reported. The 0.1% figure might be too low. I do not believe Ted Haggard would have became gay on his own. He was recruited and I don't like that.
Don't forget the man who raped him as a child. What does the rapist get? Never mind. I already know what he gets. He gets ignored.
I do not believe Ted Haggard would have became gay on his own. He was recruited and I don't like that.
So far as I know there is no scientific evidence whatsoever that a male adult molesting a male child causes that child to become gay.Don't forget the man who raped him as a child. What does the rapist get? Never mind. I already know what he gets. He gets ignored.
Has shifted much if you still refer to them as "monsters" and "recruited sodomites"
It's not a trend either, god forbid you try to understand *why* someone would come out once it's safe to do so. It's the natural state of things in a world that isn't quite so hostile
Where the hell do you come up with this? Did ted haggard actually say that?
It says quite enough that you consider the worst part of being raped at age 7 to be "turning gay" instead of the trauma and abuse of the rape itself
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