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Tiny said:
I don't understand your zeal to insult me. I don't remember hurting your feelings before.
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It's not an insult, it's a factual statement.

You were unable to find the law, when I showed it to you you didn't understand it. You're unable to find cases that were prosecuted under the law.

Post 20 is the most accurate comment on your OP.
 
Str8shooter said:
Canada is not big on freedoms such as the freedom of speech.
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Mmm... not exactly accurate. Canada is not big on pieces of shit would be the more accurate statement.

Its funny how literally the only time you hear about freedom of speech these days is when someone wants to defend their right to be a piece of shit, either through what they want to say or what they want to block someone else from saying.

The danger in this is that average decent people see this. They begin to associate freedom of speech with pieces of shit, because they know that anything the average decent person wants to say isn't under threat by anyone... except maybe pieces of shit.

When we lose freedom of speech, it will be, like so many other freedoms that have been lost, because of the pieces of shit that abuse that right, so badly that average decent people are willing to give up their own right to it to stop having to deal with the consequences of pieces of shit having the same right.

Classifying truly shitty speech as hate speech is simultaneously delaying that day, and the first step towards it. If the pieces of shit of the world actually care about freedom of speech, perhaps they should simmer down their rhetoric, as its their rhetoric that will eventually have us average decent people begging to end it... because that's how annoying pieces of shit are to the rest of us.

One question: is this a good example of irony, or nah?
 
Allan said:
It's not an insult, it's a factual statement.

You were unable to find the law, when I showed it to you you didn't understand it. You're unable to find cases that were prosecuted under the law.
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I didn't say I don't understand it. I wanted to find out how the law is applied in a scenario I have and such info is not found in your link.
Allan said:
Post 20 is the most accurate comment on your OP.
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Nobody asked for your opinion, ok?
 
Tiny said:
I didn't say I don't understand it. I wanted to find out how the law is applied in a scenario I have and such info is not found in your link.
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You don't understand the law.
Tiny said:
Nobody asked for your opinion, ok?
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You did, in Post 1.
 
Tiny said:
And? I am not a reader of legalese and I am not bothered by this fact.

That's not asking for your personal opinion. Please tell me you know the difference.
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Post 20.
 
OlNate said:
Mmm... not exactly accurate. Canada is not big on pieces of shit would be the more accurate statement.

Its funny how literally the only time you hear about freedom of speech these days is when someone wants to defend their right to be a piece of shit, either through what they want to say or what they want to block someone else from saying.

The danger in this is that average decent people see this. They begin to associate freedom of speech with pieces of shit, because they know that anything the average decent person wants to say isn't under threat by anyone... except maybe pieces of shit.

When we lose freedom of speech, it will be, like so many other freedoms that have been lost, because of the pieces of shit that abuse that right, so badly that average decent people are willing to give up their own right to it to stop having to deal with the consequences of pieces of shit having the same right.

Classifying truly shitty speech as hate speech is simultaneously delaying that day, and the first step towards it. If the pieces of shit of the world actually care about freedom of speech, perhaps they should simmer down their rhetoric, as its their rhetoric that will eventually have us average decent people begging to end it... because that's how annoying pieces of shit are to the rest of us.

One question: is this a good example of irony, or nah?
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Spoken like a true progressive who gets to determine who is and who is not a "piece of shit." If you post something that your government finds offensive, they can put you in jail for up to two years simply for hurting someone's feelings. The government gets to determine the thought and intent of the speech. Part of the law mentions "willingness" as a gauge. WTF. Who gets to determine that?

An article from the very liberal Newsweek:

https://www.newsweek.com/trudeau-crushing-free-speech-canada-let-it-warning-us-opinion-1787480
 
Str8shooter said:
If you post something that your government finds offensive, they can put you in jail for up to two years simply for hurting someone's feelings.
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Nope.

The requirement is that the offending speech is likely to cause violence.
 
Str8shooter said:
Spoken like a true progressive who gets to determine who is and who is not a "piece of shit." If you post something that your government finds offensive, they can put you in jail for up to two years simply for hurting someone's feelings. The government gets to determine the thought and intent of the speech. Part of the law mentions "willingness" as a gauge. WTF. Who gets to determine that?

An article from the very liberal Newsweek:

https://www.newsweek.com/trudeau-crushing-free-speech-canada-let-it-warning-us-opinion-1787480
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The majority gets to determine that, just like everything else. That's how society works.

And it's not a progressive thing, there's plenty of classy conservatives left up here who are sick of their fringe as well, just as there are progressives, including myself, who are sick of our fringe. Being over pieces of shit is a bipartisan sentiment, apparently.

And not for nothing, but your primary concern about going to jail for hurting someone's feelings kind of makes the point for me. Maybe don't hurt people's feelings... or if you do don't expect sympathy for any consequences you may face as a result. I'm not for jail, personally I'd like to see the old fashioned accountability... the one that comes with knuckles. But since we have moved on from that, i support any accountability that comes along to replace it.

So be all in your feelings about worst case scenarios that have no bearing on the current reality. As of today you can be almost as big a piece of shit as you like. But i promise you, by the time you can't there won't be a single decent person who cares, as we'll be the ones to strip you of that right, as a consequence of your abusing it. Cry all you want, blame anyone but yourself, but that's the way it will go down because that's the way it has always gone down. Eventually pieces of shit get put in their place.

(Heavy use of the universal you in this post, I'm sure you're a great guy.)
 
Str8shooter said:
Spoken like a true progressive who gets to determine who is and who is not a "piece of shit." If you post something that your government finds offensive, they can put you in jail for up to two years simply for hurting someone's feelings. The government gets to determine the thought and intent of the speech. Part of the law mentions "willingness" as a gauge. WTF. Who gets to determine that?

An article from the very liberal Newsweek:

https://www.newsweek.com/trudeau-crushing-free-speech-canada-let-it-warning-us-opinion-1787480
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Also... Newsweek is "very liberal"?

Maybe check again:

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OlNate said:
The majority gets to determine that, just like everything else. That's how society works.

And it's not a progressive thing, there's plenty of classy conservatives left up here who are sick of their fringe as well, just as there are progressives, including myself, who are sick of our fringe. Being over pieces of shit is a bipartisan sentiment, apparently.

And not for nothing, but your primary concern about going to jail for hurting someone's feelings kind of makes the point for me. Maybe don't hurt people's feelings... or if you do don't expect sympathy for any consequences you may face as a result. I'm not for jail, personally I'd like to see the old fashioned accountability... the one that comes with knuckles. But since we have moved on from that, i support any accountability that comes along to replace it.

So be all in your feelings about worst case scenarios that have no bearing on the current reality. As of today you can be almost as big a piece of shit as you like. But i promise you, by the time you can't there won't be a single decent person who cares, as we'll be the ones to strip you of that right, as a consequence of your abusing it. Cry all you want, blame anyone but yourself, but that's the way it will go down because that's the way it has always gone down. Eventually pieces of shit get put in their place.

(Heavy use of the universal you in this post, I'm sure you're a great guy.)
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Using your criteria, your posts hurt my feelings. Off to jail with you. :cool:
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
You are missing the part where his speech was likely to incite violence
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Nah, i said we've moved past knuckles. Which is probably a good thing for the majority of folks impacted by these super oppressive hate speech laws... lol Things would have turned out differently back in the day, when you had to insult someone to their face, rather than from behind keyboards.

Lol... nice try though...
 
Str8shooter said:
Using your criteria, your posts hurt my feelings. Off to jail with you. :cool:
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Get the majority to agree with you, and on the way to jail I'll be. :)

Given the way things are going, though, I'm probably gonna be alright.
 
OlNate said:
Nah, i said we've moved past knuckles. Which is probably a good thing for the majority of folks impacted by these super oppressive hate speech laws... lol Things would have turned out differently back in the day, when you had to insult someone to their face, rather than from behind keyboards.

Lol... nice try though...
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I meant to say that your speech did not include any incitement to cause violence
 
Lord Tammerlain said:
I meant to say that your speech did not include any incitement to cause violence
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My bad, totally misread that. ADHD makes me apologize a lot. I thought you were taking about the knuckles comment. I'm a dumb ass... or, at least, i was here. It did seem like a weird gotcha for you... sorry!!
 
OlNate said:
My bad, totally misread that. ADHD makes me apologize a lot. I thought you were taking about the knuckles comment. I'm a dumb ass... or, at least, i was here. It did seem like a weird gotcha for you... sorry!!
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No worries

I did not write it very clearly so I see why the response.
 
Reputed Canadian politeness in action folks. (y)
 
Allan said:
Nope.

The requirement is that the offending speech is likely to cause violence.
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Bill C-63 lowers that bar considerably. If it passes, speech that “is likely to foment detestation or vilification” will be deemed criminal. (See my thread on the subject)
 
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